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[*] posted on 4-12-2003 at 09:28 AM
hm.....


quite odd that it would be a vid card, seeing as i run on a Geforce 2 32mb card..and i can play just fine, my buddy plays on a Geforce 4 128mb card......and he has the 5sec punt problem. :cool:



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[*] posted on 4-13-2003 at 12:03 AM


ok shelt uve helped me alot dude thnx i keep thinkin about it
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[*] posted on 4-14-2003 at 12:37 AM


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quite odd that it would be a vid card, seeing as i run on a Geforce 2 32mb card..and i can play just fine, my buddy plays on a Geforce 4 128mb card......and he has the 5sec punt problem. :cool:


Im not sure if it's the video card....My card is recommended for the game ..I still have the problem..theres no way in hell im gonna get a new card just so I can play BHD....It's not that great of a game anyway....




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[*] posted on 4-14-2003 at 04:30 AM


someone mentioned an update..anyone no when its coming out to fix the problem?
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[*] posted on 4-14-2003 at 03:55 PM


hi i found this solution on the DFARENA forums:

Posted:Sat Apr 12, 2003 16:50 pm Post subject:I believe I have found the actual bug for the BHD punts!

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Hello everyone! I've been visting your board for awhile now and thought it was about time for me to become a member too. Some of you may know me as Azlon that is if you are or were a fan of Jedi Knight 1. I put out the mod's Manowar,2 and Manowar 3,The Mandalorian Wars series.

Anyway the reason for this post. I have 3 PC's and the only PC that had the punt problem has a Voodoo 5500 which does not have Hardware TnL. Actually the post that someone on this board made stating that when they changed thier video card the punting problem had stopped. That got me thinking that there had to have been code change to the recent patch that made it a must to have Hardware TnL.

I frequent several Voodoo boards and found out that there was a program out that had a software TnL emulator called 3D-Analyze so I got it last night and tested it today and now I no longer being punted from the game.
Follow this link and look for the link to the program.

http://www.velocity.net/~culver_c/3da164.exe

(Direct Link to program - I changed to keep you out of that forum - AW)

Please note that this program while in english all instuctions are in German.
To get the program to work follow these instructions.
Ater unzipping the zip make a folder placing it on your C drive "I named mine 3dAnalyze" and place the entire contents in there.
Now launch the program
You will now notice on the left side " File selection" go down to the second "Select" where it says
ExE (select the application file) and press Select now point the program to your Black Hawk Down game folder and click once on the dfbhd.exe file.

Next look at the top right side of the 3D-Analyze program where it says
DirextX 8 Options and look just below for Hardware Limits (caps) and place a check mark next to emulate HW TnL caps

Now look on the very right bottom and save batch file and name the batch file DFBHD and press save it will save the file in your DFBHD folder. Now look on the very left bottom and press the Run button to launch a punt free BHD.

If you have any questions I'll do my best to help. Please note I am not sure if this will fix all vid cards but it shouls as this program is not for Voodoo cards only.


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although my card already has TnL support i kept gettun punted after 5 secs, but after trying this i can play the updated version punt free:D

i hope this will help others
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 06:24 AM
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ok i tried the thing and it loks intresting ill consult with some1 else be4 i do it i did excatly as u said i think like the files i hit run and it wants me to select a bat file or somin whats that???? also shuld i update my game to 1.9 the cursed version then do it? or should i do this on 1.5 cuz thats what i got now
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 06:40 AM


this solution is for the updated version and it really works, well it does for me anyway:)
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 06:52 AM


yes but u didnt answer my first question it tells me to select a bet or bat file or somin what do i select???????
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 07:57 AM
viper0021's solution works!!!!!!!!!


Had the '5 second punt problem' since I updated. I did what viper said and it FINALLY FREAKIN' WORKS!!!!! Thanks mate!:D
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 08:39 AM


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yes but u didnt answer my first question it tells me to select a bet or bat file or somin what do i select???????


follow the instructions, there simple.
and it's not a bet or bat file, it's a exe or bat file.

u goto ur bhd folder which by default should be C:Program FilesNovalogicDelta Force Black Hawk Down and select the DFBHD.exe
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 12:39 PM


ok dude thnx alot im gonna try agian :D hope it works:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 12:40 PM


i just registered on these forums to tell everyone it worked for me aswell.
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 01:17 PM


viper DUDE u rock:D:D:D:D:D but :( another question do i have to go thro the 3danalyze thign everytime i want to play?
i know i saved the bacth file but what does that mean? and can i amke whatever link im takin to make the game work a shortcut?
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 01:47 PM


Viper bro thanx alot...good lookin out! IT WORKS IT WORKS IT WORKS FINALLY!:D



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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 02:54 PM


yeah unfortunately u have to do this process everytime u wanna play BHD, but i'ts better than nothing ain't it
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[*] posted on 4-15-2003 at 09:15 PM


Worked for my guy!

It's the fix
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[*] posted on 4-16-2003 at 02:41 AM


Ya i got a few guys in my squad aswell this worked for them to ty very much for figuring this out man its saved a lot of squads probably from falling apart and can now become stronger and have more competition in df bhd.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2003 at 06:18 AM


ok man dude ur r the best man :D also im havin some trouble wit my map makin (go figure):D
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[*] posted on 4-16-2003 at 06:56 AM
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um.. im havin trouble wit dis thing it ran last time (took a while tho) and now its not runnin at all am i forgettin somin?
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[*] posted on 4-16-2003 at 07:53 AM


man this is wierd ok well i screwed around wit it and it works dont know what i did just click somin got the hourglass and EVENTUALLY came up y does it take so long????? also im havin trouble wit my map makin i find da map and it starts to load and says this "!Polytrn Color Map not specified" what does that mean?
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[*] posted on 4-18-2003 at 08:27 AM
color shading problem


I have that 3d analyzer [Censored] and it did something to my shading and redering becasue my player textures now are neon colors. It happened on my building textures also but i managed to fix that when i went into my openGL options. Is anyone else having this problem.

i have a TNT 2 model 64- 32mb
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[*] posted on 4-20-2003 at 06:28 AM


I tried the fix, and it corrected the punting problem, but textures on weapons and players are all screwed up. (Cant see what you are shooting at, players and weapons are just a brown placeholder).

Oh, GeForce 4200 128 card here. I think it was something in the patch because I haven't had the punting problem with any other patch, just the latest one.
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[*] posted on 4-20-2003 at 06:40 AM


update your game and your punting problem will be fixed.

BHD version 1.2 is now out
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[*] posted on 4-20-2003 at 08:19 AM


now what kind of update do u mean a 3danalyze update or a bhd update?
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[*] posted on 4-20-2003 at 08:26 AM


ok now i updated i think and ive had this problem ever since i bought the game i click the shortcut AND NOTHING HAPPENS no start up or anything i dont what makes it do that and i dont know if the update fixed da problem so what do i need a graphics card what do i need i have 2.0ghz and alot of ram plz help:(
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