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PINGS

rambo0025 - 2-17-2004 at 02:55 AM

hi i was in a server and they said if you type something three times it lowers the pings.does anyone know what is?.i was serving myself then the pings went through the roof and everyone was punted.

FEARofGOD - 2-17-2004 at 04:20 AM

i think they are havin a laugh. The only thing i have heard was in a post around here somewhere. It says that you can alter the maximum ping time that you are aloud from 5000 to whatever you want. Don't trust it myself but its on this site somewhere!!!

Covert1^SOH^ - 2-17-2004 at 07:17 AM

This is in no way a direct match to your inquiry - but thought you may find it interesting as well:

http://pub158.ezboard.com/fteamsohfrm36.showMessage?topicID=8.topic

rambo0025 - 2-17-2004 at 07:57 PM

i was actually playing in the game and people were saying to the host pings are high and he said hold then on the screen he type a word and it refreshed the pings and they went down low but i cant remember what the word is he typed three times.it sound impossible but it was done:)

Covert1^SOH^ - 2-18-2004 at 12:04 AM

Was it: puntcrc

???

Covert1^SOH^ - 2-18-2004 at 11:47 AM

Hey wait a minute... was it Beetlejuice? ;o)~

rambo0025 - 2-18-2004 at 07:44 PM

hey if i asked for your smart comments i would understand but if you want to crack jokes go elsewhere and post on someones topic.you could have just said no never heard of but no you had to be a smartarse.not funny m8 go get a life.

Covert1^SOH^ - 2-18-2004 at 11:15 PM

Seems an odd reply. I gave two good suggestions and this is how you reply?

rambo0025 - 2-19-2004 at 03:32 AM

ok m8 forget i asked now go back to playing snakes and ladders or hopskotch at school children should be seen and not heard.

DEADLOCK - 2-19-2004 at 03:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rambo0025
i was actually playing in the game and people were saying to the host pings are high and he said hold then on the screen he type a word and it refreshed the pings and they went down low but i cant remember what the word is he typed three times.it sound impossible but it was done:)
Usually its 'netdelay0' which is used by a host to level his game ping if the server gets a bit laggy. Now i did stumble across an article , yrs ago, on DF2 , where some servers would set the ping rate 'high' to match their connection, like someone in INDIA hosting on a 56k , connecting to NOVA in Calif. ( INDIA* is simply an example , as its quite a distance from Calif). So ie: if i played the server, even though im on cable , it would be laggy at best, however they (the host) are used to it, and would probably win. On the subject of typing something 3 times, lol, it may have been the server playing a sick joke on ya, or they had 'altered' their game files to accept an invalid command, but, as a host, this would be done on the 'command prompt' screen, and should not be visible to you as a player, like 'text talk'. ps. a game is only as good as the server, and the lower the ping , the better the game, or 'more accurate' the above link is a very detailed description of 'REALITY' and you may want to read it in depth, so you will understand 'game ping' a bit better. ;)

Steptoe - 2-19-2004 at 04:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rambo0025
hey if i asked for your smart comments i would understand but if you want to crack jokes go elsewhere and post on someones topic.you could have just said no never heard of but no you had to be a smartarse.not funny m8 go get a life.


Hmmm...u havnt been long here have u...
Or had a good look around.
The guys fool around a bit....nothing wrong with a smile , after all its a game.....
Get a sence of humour

rambo0025 - 2-20-2004 at 03:04 AM

i got a sense of humour m8 but it was'nt funny i laugh at jokes not silly comments

Steptoe - 2-20-2004 at 05:39 AM

hmmm :P

rambo0025 - 2-20-2004 at 05:50 AM

u r boring me m8 now get a life i asked a serious question for someone to answer sensibly not a stupid kid with nothing but nonsense in his/her head.now post to someone who wants to reply to you:D

hope this helps

$10.dollar bill - 2-20-2004 at 06:07 AM

hey rambo hope this helps when you host maps out especially deathmatches when there,s a lot going on in the game and if some1 states that the game is laggee then press the @ key then the message box will appear at the bottom of your screen then type the word netdelay as you see it here no spaces then hit the enter key you will then see a message display in the top right corner of your screen it will say delay set to oms meaning 0 milla seconds this will only reduce lag for a short period of time.And as for ping times as it has been mentioned ping times can,t be reduced ping times are to do with the server,s connection speed i wish you well and all the best **MISTIFIRE - - -**:cool::cool:

rambo0025 - 2-20-2004 at 06:26 AM

thanks alot m8 i decent reply at last much appreciated mistifire.

1 more thing

$10.dollar bill - 2-20-2004 at 06:39 AM

just 1 more thing i forgot to mention when you,ve typed in netdelay and like i said its only for a short period of time you can type netdelay as much as u want to help reduce lag when ever other players state that the game is laggee just just do what i mentioned in the last post wish you well and all the best **MISTIFIRE - - -**:cool::cool:

HEY RAMBO

Gen-metal-WRT - 2-20-2004 at 08:53 AM

how bout u get a life. C my pst meter, ya its over a hundred. You shouldnt b talkin shnit ti peeps that have been here longer than u.

C ya im out, i dont have to deal with these nova n00bies.

rambo0025 - 2-20-2004 at 09:13 AM

what difference does it make how long you've been here m8 i am not causing trouble just cant be bothered with smart comments thats all.

well

Gen-metal-WRT - 2-20-2004 at 09:37 AM

well "m8", im not ur m8 and bro, get over it, obviously u cant take some simple jokes, when i saw them, i laughed. Now go out and post, and play some df games.

PEACE OUT [Censored]S LOL JK

Eagle_Eye - 2-20-2004 at 04:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rambo0025
ok m8 forget i asked now go back to playing snakes and ladders or hopskotch at school children should be seen and not heard.


Just to let you know, Covert1^SOH^ is no kid, over 40, a team player, runs his teams web site, respected in his community, I suggest you cool down..

Don't like the comments...ignore them, no need to be abusive...

EE
and I'm 45.....

hehehe

Gen-metal-WRT - 2-20-2004 at 04:50 PM

looks like you landed on a chute there rambo. OHH CRAP u really screwed the pooch on that one LOL how funny is that!

Steptoe - 2-21-2004 at 05:01 AM

Nah dont hammer Rambo.....often ppl come in here and dont realise that there is a general laid back style here, until been here a while.
Hes cool just getting his feet like many other have done so and turned into good members

lol

Gen-metal-WRT - 2-21-2004 at 05:30 AM

i know bro, evry one has to get broken on, ive been ragged on a lot of times but not anymore, i think. So im just gettin him ready for bigger fish so he can fry em, or whatever LOL

Maybe help...

DeadGuns_x - 2-21-2004 at 04:11 PM

There are several reasons to make highping & still unknown in some case. In my opinion, most highping cause from some the Bad Terrain map form. Setting Color Sky too hight. Too much Water in map. Too much objects Stufts like Buildings & Vehicles. when hight ping the host can help little by tryping: netdelay or puntcrc several time. But just help low ping intime. The best is download program call: Speed9x.ex9 151kb will help all Modem and Cable Connection run fast and always ping low.

*TRD*C-Dog - 2-21-2004 at 04:12 PM

never heard of anything like this. all i know of is puntcrc and netdelay

Theres a trick we used to use in delta force 2

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 07:19 PM

This has to be done by game host but it works

Bring up the comand scree ~ or ' button then type
netdelay
this will sety the delay to 0ms
"netdelay 1" will set it to 209ms and higer numbers will st higher delay times

I guess this is what you heard and yes most people do Net delay 3 times in a row.

Come on people I thought you were pro's

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 07:20 PM

also Dont do puntcrc Thats so you clear your ban list

Realy come on this is basic stuff

phoenixCDS - 2-21-2004 at 07:31 PM

netdealy does nothing for players suffering from lagg,ask nova or look in the favs FAQ ;) all it does is slows down the comands comin from the host ,makes no odds to host as he doesn't get lagg anyway

punt crc clears the hosts ram cache not the ban list

so if you want to help ppl with a lil lagg punt ur crc

or try askin the ppl screaming "LAAAAAAAAAGGGG" to punt their crc , it should come up with 1-8 all with zero's if not try again if still not clear they need a reboot

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 07:38 PM

thats the whole point of netdelay 1 seting selay to 209ms If pp suffer from lag u set the delay higher so everyu 1 suffers same amount of lag including host there for eliminating the problem, cos if every 1 is 209 ms slower than the data
then no body is slower than the next person,
and punting crc will alow baned players back in to game Its a old trick squad members would use in delta force 2 to get there team mates un banned,
theyd come in and say
"puntcrc i have lag" and 1st thing any 1 did the ofeending players would re enter room

phoenixCDS - 2-21-2004 at 07:50 PM

lmao dream on m8

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 08:01 PM

well if you know it all why dont you tell us all why they have the option to do netdelay?

and why does net delay 1 make the delay 209ms

and you can also tell us what is stored in your crc cant you??

I mean i can I already have your crc stores baned players data And i take it youve been banned from a lot of servers and there for you want people to sumpcrc so you can re enter the rooms

or of cours if your telling the truth You will be able to tell us all why the net delay option is there
and why its called NETDELAY and not
"totaly nothing to do with the delay on the net"
And punting crc may reduce lag But only becous it no longetr has to remember who has been baned or not:cool:

HumanTarget - 2-21-2004 at 08:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dflw.2ya.com
This has to be done by game host but it works

Bring up the comand scree ~ or ' button then type
netdelay
this will sety the delay to 0ms
"netdelay 1" will set it to 209ms and higer numbers will st higher delay times

I guess this is what you heard and yes most people do Net delay 3 times in a row.

Come on people I thought you were pro's


dflw.2ya.com.. If u bothered to read all of the thread, u would see what u posted was already covered. Don't insult people here just because u have ur underwear in a twist. This thread has been answered. as good support is what we give :)

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 08:28 PM

lol I like you :)
Good to see people actualy do have some humor in them at this forum

phoenixCDS - 2-21-2004 at 08:29 PM

hoooooweeeeeee i like him..........zesty ;)

what possible reason would i lie about commands on a game ?


banned players data is stored on a text document called "BANNED", and when you quit hosting,if you hit esc +y you lose any banned players from the banned list......but if you use command line and type "quit" the banned players are saved to the text document....but i guess you knew that

"PROBLEM:
What is NetDelay? And does it cause LAG?

RESOLUTION:
The Netdelay command sets a delay on outgoing commands other than your position information. In theory setting it on your client could give you a disadvantage by making all of your commands go through more slowly.
A serve and play host could use it to give themselves a slight advantage over other players (by setting a high netdelay on the server), but that\'s about it. Otherwise it doesn\'t do anything.

Note that it has nothing to do with "lag" which is internet latency, this is just a delay on outgoing commands.


:cool:

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 08:36 PM

so basicly your saying that my
comment of seting your net delay high will give you same lag as every 1 els so no 1 suffers (if your host)
is correct and that netdelay dont drop ping but instead compensated for it

Thats fine becous thats exactly what i implied

Thnx for the verification:P

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 08:39 PM

by the way ,

Ping is the time it takes for your pc to hand shake the other pc.
every 1's ping should differ from server to server depending how many ttl hops you haft to do (the best is 64)
windows default is 250 sumthing
the faster the host's conection the better the ping,
you can change your ttl hops setings and your mtu tcip and also your rwin receve window
of cours you already knew all this:o

phoenixCDS - 2-21-2004 at 08:48 PM

lmao your full of yourself aintya

no i'm not saying that,thats novalogic the folks that made the game that are saying that ;)

lol no host suffers very little lagg if any at all

uumm yeah i knew that ;)

i generaly do a lil research before i post BS on a forum....should try it some time you might look inteligent then

cya around programmer ;)

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 09:06 PM

it seems your comp[rehention of what was said is a little lacking,

We know a host has no lag as he is the host,
thats the whole point in doing a net delay
that way the host is also given a slight dissadvantage.
Otherewize It wouldnt be realy fair

You see the simple premmis is

if every 1 els has a bad ping to the host the host will have no lag and there for wont be standing where other people see him.
so shooting him wont work as he isnt actualy there he was there a second ago.

So when the host does a net delay of 1
209ms
he/she them selfs will also be slowed down efectivly giving them selfs the same lag as the rest of the player(s)

Now repeat that back to me i wanna make shure you understand

phoenixCDS - 2-21-2004 at 10:38 PM

lol you think so

better spending time on ur website m8 it needs work along with your ego ._.


GHOSTRIDER~RSU~ - 2-21-2004 at 10:45 PM

a lot of lag depends on the map if there is a lot of items in the map it causes lag, also if u are on a dialup u can lag or if ur video card is under powered it causes a lag.

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 10:59 PM

thats basicaly right but fundimenataly flawed,

thereason being that a gfx card under pressuer is not lag its system slow down, wich are 2 difrent things.

lag is when you are lagging behind and geting data slower than every 1 els becous of your internet conection

system slow down is when your pc is under pressure an things will moove in jerks,
rectify system slowdown by using lower refresh rates for your game gfx/geting better gfx card or could even be lack of processor power or ram

rectyfy lag by geting a better connection. reducing your ttl or increasing your rwin.

phoenixCDS - 2-21-2004 at 10:59 PM

and before i forget......no i haven't been banned from a lot of servers

i have been banned from one server because i called him out for using a trainer

:cool:

dflw.2ya.com - 2-21-2004 at 11:13 PM

As i have already said I throw things together, when i have made all the pages and finished seting up the links i will then create a nicer looking index, But unlike some people I dont see the value in asthetic's
nice looking stuff take longer to load and tend to requier people to download stuff,

on to the ego thing.
i have already said i am no better than any 1 els and i seriously doubt that any 1 person is better than any other,
however your comprehention seems awfly limited
What you posted that novalogic states should be explained to you by some 1
as you dont seem to grasp the concept
I have tried to explain to you but it seems
you are beond normal logic and have seveere trouble grasping simple premmises.
This dose not mean i have a ego. although Maby you have.

Just so u know cos u may not have seen other posts but ive already said

im not great at anything i do but unlike some people here I am willing to spend weeks teaching people what i know then they go off and use what i taught them to better effect than i did.

is this a ego ?
i doubt it as i have stated that i am no better than u and i am also not great at anything i do And i have even said that anything i teach people they usualy go on to use the techneques to greater effect than me,

i have a horrible feeling that my words are wasted on you but in this life you haft to be tollerant and patient with people.

and thats why ive bothered to type this text which is no doubt above your head.

Thanx for ya time

RAP~RSU~ - 2-21-2004 at 11:15 PM

When i read this topic ,i ask myself what the hell are u talking about now?
Wasnt it already done at 6 Post?
Now its like a little battle,who knows all,who is the best...
When u have so much Time,reply all double posters and tell them to read before
Thx

NoobGW - 2-22-2004 at 03:12 PM

ok yall are playing BHD right? well i am a df2 junkie and our squad plays Serach and Destroy. if u wanna see a server laaaaaaag when a peep sets off 10-20 sathces sometimes the game seems to freeze. even with a ping of <100. most of the servers have a ping of 150-170 and netdelay works until the first satch is detonated. and if i understand it correctly puntcrc is used to clear all packets left by players enterning and leaving the game.

and doesnt the host have to use the netdelay command? but then agian it might be different for BHD.


Bones5 - 2-24-2004 at 06:38 AM

hey is it worth dling df pinger?

Covert1^SOH^ - 2-24-2004 at 09:10 AM

Absolutely worth the dl - imho

Bones5 - 2-24-2004 at 10:29 AM

o ok thanks