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stinky
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I agree with taw -----------wish to continue but wont----------:o
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camouflage_Tr
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I have to agree with Military Wife TNT on this one. The chopper thinks its empty. You are fooling the chopper to fly over the hotel. the Glitch is
rignt there.
Plain and simple to me.. GLITCHERS
Although SOH makes some vaild points, you are still manipulating the chopper to return to base cause it thinks there is noone in it.
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Damage~tr~
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Yep i think its a glitch also... Anytime your tricking the game to do something its not supose to do then thats what its called
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On top of the points already made... I agree that this is a glitch for another simple reason.
It wasn't meant to be there. I give congrats to teams that try to find innovative ways to win. But using this technique violates the spirit and
strategy of the map.
Part of the fun and tactics of house of pain is using all your teammates in a combined fashion to take over a pretty well defensible zone. Basically
the prototypical TKOTH map.
To me if your using this or any other glitch, on purpose, you might as well modem glitch and run trainers or my least favorite the 'invisible man'
from DF1.
Why the hell not? everyone else could do if they wanted to.
Play the game the way it was meant to be, if you can't practice or give up, just stay off good servers.
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IceQueen~RGR
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Let's talk about strategy and intent.
IF you could control the flight of the helo, would you fly over the zone? Sure you would. I don't think that getting the vehicle to do what it does
is "tricking"... it is directing the vehicle to move in a pattern that was programed... you aren't making it go where the programmers didn't want it
to go. That would be cheating. Getting it to go in a pattern that it is designed to move in, is not glitching. Riding on the outside of a chopper
is a reality. If the chopper goes in a different pattern (a programmed one) when you do this, then it is legal.
How do any of you know what the programmer intended for sure? Yes, with people INSIDE it, it goes this way.. with people OUTSIDE it, it goes that
way. How is that glitching? And who is to say that the programmer didn't INTEND it to do that? To say you know... is speculation.
I still think it is a strategy and that is all.
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Bongo
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Stock maps suck, they've always sucked and the will continue to suck.
People who use glitches suck, they've always sucked and will continue to suck.
This is a prime example why I refuse to play them. Gaming should be fun and custom maps made by knowledgeable mappers are the best way to fly.......no
pun intended.
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Eagle_Eye
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Who cares........it's only a Game for God's sake....haven't you got anything better to do? Go play the "game".....if you missed seeing the guy on
the roof, and he capped your ass, that's your fault, for not seeing him...play as if your real life depended on it...look, listen, live....
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Gen-metal-WRT
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try this
use teamwork to get a bunch of ur teamme,bers up there, have a few of them guard the helo, then u r set for the rest of the map LOL-
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camouflage_Tr
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Icequeen,
I dont see how U dont think your tricking the chopper.
U put one outside the chopper, one goes inside the chopper then the chopper flies away.. while in flight the guy inside kills himself.. Now the
chopper thinks its empty, so it goes back to base, not knowing that there is a guys riding the outside that can jump on top of the roof of the zone.
Now a glitch has been created! If the creater intended for the Helo to go to the roof, then u wouldnt have to TRICK it to go there.. there for a
glitch is created.
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sharkozi
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| Quote: | Originally posted by camouflage_Tr
Icequeen,
I dont see how U dont think your tricking the chopper.
U put one outside the chopper, one goes inside the chopper then the chopper flies away.. while in flight the guy inside kills himself.. Now the
chopper thinks its empty, so it goes back to base, not knowing that there is a guys riding the outside that can jump on top of the roof of the zone.
Now a glitch has been created! If the creater intended for the Helo to go to the roof, then u wouldnt have to TRICK it to go there.. there for a
glitch is created.
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I have to agree with Camo, tricking the helo to fly where it was intended to fly with NO players IN or ON the helo is a glitch.
There are alot of well known glitches in BHD so does that mean you should use them to gain the advantage? I think not. Its a well known glitch to
climb part way up a wooden later then then turn and lean into the building it is attached to do see thru it to look for your opponents or even clays,
its well known but that doesnt mean you should use it, its a glitch to gain an advantage over the other team. How about the well known glitch of
laying part way underwater on a river bank and be able to shoot underwater at your opponent and kill them, again its well known and again its a glitch
that gives you an advantage over the other team.
If this is how some players or even for that matter some squads need to play then its a sad day for BHD.
Shark -oZi-
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Sharptooth~RGR
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Eagle_Eye
Who cares........it's only a Game for God's sake....haven't you got anything better to do? Go play the "game".....if you missed seeing the guy on
the roof, and he capped your ass, that's your fault, for not seeing him...play as if your real life depended on it...look, listen, live....
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I agree with EE well said! 
Pucker Up Buttercup!
Suck it up Buttercup!
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IceQueen~RGR
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| Quote: | Originally posted by camouflage_Tr
Icequeen,
I dont see how U dont think your tricking the chopper.
U put one outside the chopper, one goes inside the chopper then the chopper flies away.. while in flight the guy inside kills himself.. Now the
chopper thinks its empty, so it goes back to base, not knowing that there is a guys riding the outside that can jump on top of the roof of the zone.
Now a glitch has been created! If the creater intended for the Helo to go to the roof, then u wouldnt have to TRICK it to go there.. there for a
glitch is created.
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LMAO... how do you "trick" something that can't think.. it is an object in the game... it is programmed to fly over the zone when no one is IN, yes
IN, the helo. There is no regulation that I know of that says you can't be ON< read ON, aka outside> the helo. I think it is silly that U (normally
spelled you) think it is tricking... it was PROGRAMMED TO DO THAT.
Again I say... tactic, not glitch. It is my opinion and you can disagree if you want, your priviledge. I will agree to disagree and with the issue
being 50% either way. I don't think this will ever get resolved. So I respectfully disagree with the tricking... aka glitch position.
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Bongo
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How about the well known glitch of laying part way underwater on a river bank and be able to shoot underwater at your opponent and kill them,
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You can also climb on ladders that are underwater and shoot any and all weapons.......yet another glitch.
Its hard to control the actions of everyone, some are not aware that they are actually in a glitch until you point it out to them. Remember the
stacking clays before an update to limit claymore to two?
I fail to see why people feel the need to manipulate the game and refuse to play in the way in which it was designed.
Stock maps are a terrible display in what can be achieved with the mission editor in my opinion and because of this I feel that anything goes. Your
placed into battle on hapharzardly made glitchy maps in the first place so maybe the best thing to do is just be aware that some people (myself not
one of them) insist on using them and play on.
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Sharptooth~RGR
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According to the numbers 36% think it's a glitch to the 35% who don't so it depends upon whether or not you think it's a glitch.
I think that the best way to resolve this is if you are playing in a match talk about what is appropriate and what is not.
Work it out on a case by case basis and go from there.
Pucker Up Buttercup!
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Eagle_Eye
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I didn't vote...
Hey Sharpy...I'll have you on my 6 anytime...these young people don't know how to play...they have no skills with tactics...it's all a run'n'rush job
with them....and when they get their butt kicked..it's all because the "Game" is flawed. Steath is the key...and this means Look, Listen...
Use the old Book...here are the things to look for, the key to good observation....
Spacing...unnatural spacing
Surface....shiny, or doesn't fit suroundings
Silhouette...Don't walk on a hill line..or crest
Shape...un-natural shape
Shadow...don't cast a shdow
Movement...Don't move suddenly...
I'm not called Eagle Eye because I chose the name...it was given to me for a reason..
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camouflage_Tr
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I will give you (yes U, says the same thing when U say it).Anyway, I was just trying to see your logic with this, thats all. Your right, everyone is
entiled to there opinion. U have yours I have mine.
Sharp, U are absolutly right on.. the people setting up the match will have to discuss these issues before the match is played.
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Sharptooth~RGR
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Thanks EE I would be honored to have you on my 6 too. Lord knows as a medic I need the cover...lol
Camo, Ice is a professor and so the U just doesn't sit right... Don't take offense man she is a good woman!
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Reynolds [TNT]
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where did the poll go? dang this thread got over 1400 hits 60+ votes and most people that posted do not visit here reguarly so you all delete the poll
and move it? I brought a lot of people to this site and you couldnt even say something about moving it or deleting the poll? whats the deal?
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IceQueen~RGR
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Hey bro, with the numbers being even, I don't think it was going anywhere anyway. But you are right, good turnout for the subject.
Sorry, Camo, I understand what you meant, just have this thing for the English Language vs Slanglish or Internetonics....
ty, brb, lol, lmao fubar... U r a sob (not you, just an example bro :D ) ... stuff like that.
I spent a lot of time and money learning how to construct sentences that were grammatically correct. I want my money's worth at all times. n e 1
knot git at?
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camouflage_Tr
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LOL icequeen, i git it..:P
I am presenting this thread to the ACG and putting up a new poll for the ACG members to vote on. I am intrigued by this issue. I want to see some
other opinions about this. I will keep this thread posted about the ACG's findings.
Camo~Tr~
Can I get a critique on my english Icequeen? Proper english and I never mixed very well. :D
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Eagle_Eye
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Reynolds [TNT]
where did the poll go? dang this thread got over 1400 hits 60+ votes and most people that posted do not visit here reguarly so you all delete the poll
and move it? I brought a lot of people to this site and you couldnt even say something about moving it or deleting the poll? whats the deal?
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We, as Moderators decided this was a rant and rave, so it was moved...but not realising that the only place you can have a poll, is the public forum,
the poll was lost...but you have your results...
Regards
EE
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Reynolds [TNT]
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I wouldnt think a serious question would be ranting and raving but hey its not my call. Anyways thank you for the space for the post.
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Eagle_Eye
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NO, we didn't delete your post...it's right here, with all the original posts..we voted to move it to the rant and rave..so here it is...but, we lost
the poll...
How could I quote a post that was deleted..it wouldn't be here..period..
No power trip here buddy....get a grip...it's only a poll..you saw the results already....you want me to delete it as well...and get rid of a
perfectly good rant and rave...? just give me the word...
Don't forget to shut the door on the way out!
Regards
EE
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Reynolds [TNT]
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ok
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Eagle_Eye
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I see the reply I quoted, it's still there, what are you talking about...take a look...above...just under Sharps last reply...the one with the
animated sig...
Sounds to me your looking to bait the Mods into an arguement...or just lost your glasses...
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