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Caloy
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you call 150 a highpingrate?.. lmfao I never played a game pinging below 300. So I can't assault. Instead I just snipe that way the lead isn't that
big compared to shooting up close. :D
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Hmmmm alot of rants and raves bout cheaters !! If you really concerned bout cheats then join a good anti cheat organisation ie www.acg-bhd.com......although i would recommend doing some research first before you go calliing anyone a cheat in a game ! I have a ping rate of
80 - 100 and get accused of cheating alot ! ( i normally take it as a compliment ) Theres a lot of explanations why people dont die in this screwed up
game :
Did you know theres a glitch in the back? So if you stab or shoot them in the back they dont die !! in fact they can just turn round and pow! your
dead !!
Also the speed thing ! some times if you run thru smoke or along a ladder that has had its z value changed it will result in you running faster ?!!
therefore looking like your speeding ?
Theres numerous reasons for explaining weird things in this game as its full of bugs !! but dont get me wrong there are cheats out there and available
trainers to !! best thing to do is keep an eye on the ping rates when hosting , when a player enters a game with a trainer on the ping rates will
shoot thru the roof !! but as was commented on earlier "take screenshots" you need proof peeps dont just go and shoot your mouth of cos believe me
thats more annoying than havina cheat in a server 
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EraserX.A/F
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I have been called a cheat lots , i dont cheat and really i havent seen anyone cheat. I stopped playen df2 cause of cheats , now those cheats are real
lol when u can fly and autonade there is somethin wrong , but for bhd i have seen nothin like this . So just becareful everyone u call cheats lol that
just makes them hunt u more , i know i look for someone if they call me a cheat and make it a point of killen them lol
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Gen.Wolfy
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cheats
i have every df and iv been forced to only play df1 cause i have meet to many cheats on the others.
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Jinks
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LMAO . Nova does not have a game out that doesn't have cheating in it including BHD . I have been playing the DF series since the day DF1 was released
and have every game Nova has released and have played all of them . Every one has cheating in it . BHD has a cheat out where you can go in and out of
GOD MODE without having to leave the game by hitting the F# keys . Plus there are programs out that make your ping rate go sky high and hard to kill
but you can still kill others easy . To say BHD or any Nova game has no cheats or show me proof , thats really funny . To prove someone is useing
external programs you would have to get that PC and check it out yourself . The only proof you can get someone cheats is the obvious cheats like sky
jumping , show all and cheats like that . There are cheats in every game . Just learn to live and play with them because they will always be in Nova
games .
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ICEMAN89
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Through the 3 weeks i have been playing BHD i have noticed 0 people cheating. Most of the time thereare glitches and peoples hands go through a wall
and get shot due tho that or even a head go through a concrete wall and get shot there by the other team. Other times i can shoot a guy on a hill and
i see my bullet impact were the person is yet the guy survives cause a glitch in the map made part of the hill invisible and allowed me to see through
it. Other times people them selves turn transparent. But these were all caused by glitches and or high ping rates. Just today i was acuused for
cheating cause i was beeting 5 people on tdm all by myself since they weren't that good. If any one accuses a person of cheating they better have a
very god reason since most of the time, it is just a glitch in the game. I have never and will never call any one a cheater unless i am positive that
they are cheating. Also, please don't call me a cheater since i have had this game for only 3 weeks and don't know how to cheat at all, even if i did
know i won't cause it would be no fun.
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Bandit
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BHD Cheaters
has any one ever unloaded 200 bullets and some one hasn't died? well there not cheating nor is it lag.
its a glitch when first start the game some times the game dosn't regster your gun and it seems like your shoot blanks. well just go to a armory and
change your type to any thing the other then the one you had. then shoot with that guy for a little bit if he hits people then just go back to the
armory and switch to the type you had. this works for me alot. if you game in a game after a start delay this glitch is 25% .
in conlusion if you think people are cheating or laging its the games its self.
if it dosen't still work just leave the game and come back.
i am not saying there is no cheaters. there is some but not as many as you think.
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NemesisMatch
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This is what i mean. Just to clearyfi.
If a guy/woman has a ping between 100-300 then its a good ping. That indicates that the person are sitting on a good line.
But if the same person can run 600 meters in 3 seconds, shoot ppl with the Car15 in 2 different places in a near second with alot of houses between
them and then refuses to get killed when someone is blasting 200 shots in there head while they are laying down, THATS CHEATING.
But its fun to see that alot of ppl are talking about this. If we didnt the cheaters would have a nice walk in the park
Greets all
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sniper2003
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BHD cheats
I have been playing BHD ever since it came out and the demo ever since IT came out (the beta one). In all the time I have played I have joined MANY
different servers including Nova ones and have seen how many cheaters so far? 0! I have yet to see any cheater whatsoever in the whole time I have
played, now in DF2 there are tons I have seen so many people shooting down at people who have been seeming to be floating in the air high in the sky!
But I am talking about BHD here. No cheaters I have played in almost every server I could that is dedicated or just seems to be playing a map I like.
No cheaters! the closest I have ever seen to a cheater is some one sniping on a map way out far where the terrain and environment make the person seem
slightly transparent! other times its just a problem with the game, where someone jumped from a helo (also I have tried this and sometimes it
works!) in one of the jolt servers while playing Hornet's Nest while the helo was halfway to the other base and lived! Other than that I have never
seen someone floating in the air. I have never seen someone speeding 90 mph across the map. I have never seen someone sniping like an automatic!
I don't want to upset any of you who HAVE seen someone who you had a significant amount of proof of cheating, but I am tired of people complaining
about people in BHD cheating!
peace! :D
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CONCORD TSA
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Hi all..
I play anther Novalogic game called F22 L3, and i been playing that since it came out. Now im no newbie in there and i do get call a cheat all the
time by the newbies i just laugh it up..
Now i spend more time in BHD where i am the newbie once again and it suprised me to see all the text going on with someone calling someone else a
cheat. Its so easy to say cheat when your getting killed, but insted try to find a way to learn from what you done and fix the mistake i did and to my
shock i ended up with over 200 points, dont call cheat all the time just remember there will always be someone better than you no matter how good you
are.
When i started F22 i did know of the cheats for that game and i did a search and didnt find any but while looking for info on maps for BHD i found all
the trainers, loads of them so its no wounder why people cheat there easy to find,
any way those are my thoughts learn had but do it right a clean
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Lothar =TM=
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I do agree with Havoc.. most ppl arn't cheating I have been called a cheater loooooots of times.. But I never installed a cheat on my cpu..It's when I
own ppl or when I have spawnarmor that ppl claim me to be a cheater.. And then of course the bug which I hate when u can't kill anyone no matter how
much u shoot but u sure can die.. the best thing to do then is commit suicide and it will work out just fine again..
Though I have seen a cheater ONE single time.. I've just heard of some cheats that had been released and so I paid extra attention.. One guy shot too
many nades in my oppinion. So I let him kill me and watched him shoot nades without dieing.. and he shot over 10 nades.. where the maximum is 6
nades.. And now do you want proof that such a trainer realy exist Havoc??? Then here I will send u an adress of cheats exposed:
Click here
Well... my point is that cheaters are very uncommon but they do exist and that sucks.. I hope you all will stay clean.. and perhaps I'll see some of u
in the battlefield..
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DevilDog
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I wanna get my two cents in, here is a post that I took from btcsquad.com (born to cheat squad) . . .
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 2:53 pm Post subject: MorÐel's Multie Trainer MorÐel's Multie Trainer is now for Download in
ower new download section , This Trainer is a Multie Trainer for all Delta Force games , single play and multie play all codes are in there , I never
seen such a Trainer its a real good looking Trainer gj on that MorÐel-tcb- and PartyBunny-tcb-
Go to their site, It's amazing how they flaunt their cheats/hacks/trainers. Trust me ppl - there ARE cheats out there. I freakin hate them and have
seen them first hand - I have over 12000 minutes of multiplaer time experience, so I've been out there for a while.
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Pseudopath
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Well I think democracy can work....
As mentioned above why not go to the btcsquad.com and vote on their current poll telling them to stop cheating and producing trainers!
I'll bet usually they received traffic from "compromised" players who would obviously say yes to cheating...
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And now.....
First off, I agree with alot of things Havoc and a few others said about proving that there are cheaters. Second I also agree on actually coming
across a cheater. But after a lot of time Hosting and noticing several things on how some players play and the things I see that are at my best
guest...glitches. Grant it, I am not doubting that any of you have not seen someone cheat nor am I saying that there is factual way in knowing when
someone is cheating. I've been playing FPS Games for a long time so I am far from being a noob. As with BHD and most if not all other past FPS games
there will always be cheaters and programs or source codes that will help them cheat. Its almost like having the best of one World but it can't
survive without the other (bad) World. In my opinion, your gonna have cheaters in just about every game you play online. Now, to say that alot if you
have not seen a cheater is not to say that there wasn't one amongst you then, you may have simple not noticed. And for those that say that they come
across cheaters on a regular basis is like saying that 1 out of every 10 players in one game is cheating. Which is not always the case but we know
that it does happen. Since I have been hosting (which I might add is quite frequent) I have noticed that there is the unfortunate case of lagging. The
obvious PING issue that will remain with us online players till Lawd only knows when. For most of us we already know the way how online gaming
connections start and end. For you players that are not familiar with how it goes let me break it down to you in a few easy steps, this applies to
Hosting and Joining, but for arguement sake lets say YOU the player is Hosting; 1. From the Host's ISP - data travels to 2. Main Server (NovaWorld) -
then to - 3. The player that is joining - and then - 4. The data is then reverse back to the original Source (which is YOU the Host). Now, I don't
know about some of you but that a LONG ASS trip!!! That comes as your PING rate. "T and R" (Transfer and Received) that shows up on your upper left
part of your screen. The lower the rate the better the data signal travels from Host-to-Server-to-Joiner-and-in reverse-back to Host. Take note, I
only listed a more simplified way of explaining how data travels but you have to keep in mind that in between the 3-6 I have listed there are numerous
"Hops" (Server to Server) that that data has to travel. Like I said, LONG ASS trip. Now some players with slower internet connections can and do in
fact slow down the data that travels bewteen all that are playing on NovaWorld's Servers. Which means the more slower connections made towards Host,
the more Lagging (or higher PINGs), therefore you have players that are disappearing and then reappearing, unloading a full clip into another player
and all they do is smile to you in return and a serious speed increase by 10 fold. With all that said (which is alot) there really isn't a fire proof
way to determain all those that cheat or suspected of cheating. Unless of course there is the Man Power of Staffing people with knowledge and special
written programs to informed them of Trainers being used of erroriness source coding. Which NovaLogic is not about to indulge without charging players
monthly for connecting to their Servers. Alot of things you get in life are free but they do come with catches eventually. I have no reason to cheat
nor do I believe in those that do should in fact spoil it for the honest ones out there. They know who they are... But I am not going to accuse any
player of cheating unless I know for absolute certainty that they are. As of now, like most of us, we don't know for sure. So let us all just accept
the fact for now that there just not too many places online that we can go without having to deal with suspected cheaters or those that in fact do
cheat.
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Mopic
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At first i have to say, that English is not my native language, so please be patient if u find some mistakes in my words.
I have played BHd aproximately 150-200 hours. I never saw someone, about whom i definetly could say, he/she is a cheater. My Opinion is, that there
are a lot of bugs in this game and in the most cases this brings up these irritations. To me those cheater-stuff seems like all the rumors about ufos,
a lot of ppl talk about it, but just a few say, they really saw one, and nobody ever brought up an unimpeachable evidence.
I think most of these cheater-situations are the result of a lack of understanding the game (and its technical imperfectness).
For the case, i got the feeling(!) of being cheatet and someone or some people are annoying me with their playing, in the worst case i simply leave
the server and go to another one...thats not that hard.
It´s a little bit like at that time we all played in the sandbox. If someone throws u sand in your eyes, u can sit there and cry, beat him in his face
or leave the place and play somewhere else...today and in this game crying is what i dislike, beating the guy into his face is impossible because
he/she is "cheating" or beating u with a fist of steel and normaly i´m not the server to punt him/her, so i prefer the last. There is so much space in
cyberspace, u don´t have to hang around with annoying people. And disregard is a punishment too.
I say, go somewhere else and play at a server, where u got the fun u search. Stressing u up with foreign people is something for the real life, not
for a cybergame.
And to any guy, who is reading this and IS cheating: Sad one. Isn´t it boring to play such a funny action contest against people from all over the
world and never get that feeling of making it right with your team just by your pure own skills?
These short Moments of glory have made me addicted to this game...
cu all on the battleground
Mopic =RDS=
visit me and my friends at www.rotezone.de
PS: There u can also see some screenies of buggy situations in BHD. cu
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Steptoe
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I agree the chances of coming a cross a trainers are slim, 3 confirmed on our server since the release of LW...
An ssen 2 on another server, not using trainers but tapping.
But u guys who get accused of cheating cause u are good, realy annoy me, in all the years everyone has been accused EXCEPT ME !!!
Isnt being slightly above ave player good enough to be accused of cheating!!!! :P
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NemesisMatch
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Hehehehe
Nice one, being mad about never being accused for cheating. That was a new one LOL
And its nice to see that ppl are discovering that cheats excist. They always do and will always excist. The thing is that thoose who cheats never have
learnd this thing called MORAL, ethics, and fair play. Sorry to say but thats the hardcore truth.
Greets all
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COW *AUS*
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Steptoe you cheater :P
Happy Now LOL jk bro
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Steptoe
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hey Bovine lol... see u hanging up here a bit now m8?
the kiddie CS guys getting to u to m8 lol
Man these guys just cant handle lag, can they?
locally (Australaisa) we icmp ping in at local servers 50 to 110 tops
To hit anywahere in the world we think nothing of playing 250 to 450 + ping...
Oh well suppose thats y we produce the best DF players.....
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i hate cheaterssss..
~+~Death comes to us all, but when he came to me he killed me and offered Moomba a job.~+~
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Mirage
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I hate cheaters too, but I think moaning about them all the time, and hyping-up the problem with cheaters makes the game worse than it needs to be.
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Steptoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mirage
I hate cheaters too, but I think moaning about them all the time, and hyping-up the problem with cheaters makes the game worse than it needs to be.
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u hit the nail right on the head there m8...
ppl count cheaters, who counts legit players? the % cheaters would be less than 1% the rest is all hyp an ppl posting not realy knowing what they are
talking about, just like all those who call cheat on servers based oin stupid things like good stats, or lag in stuff.
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Violated:BBZ
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out of my days playing BHD i have SEEN with my own 2 eyes about 3-4 cheaters 1 of them ( on S&D ) i stood around the corner and saw him throw 3
satchels at the same time the other 1-2 people it was them auto nading ( and they were on my team ) and 1 person who ran ( about 40M ) straight down
a wide, long alley with a knife killing 5 pepl without attempting to pull out thier gun ( and all that died were runnin head on to him shooting and no
there was no PSP or spawn area near that alley )..... other than those pepl, i have seen noone else that i can say 100% they are cheating so i suck it
up and play on ( trying my hardest to target them...lol )
and i still dont see the point in cheating except they suck and cant play without it.... and i will admit it i have cheated in Counter Strike one time
for expiremental purpose ( i wanted to know why there were so many cheaters and what the big deal was ) and in that 10 minute expirence i hated it...
it took ALL the fun out of it ( the hack i had was an openGL hack that showed a ring around everyone with corresponding colors, auto head aim, and i
think a few other things but i dont know.... but with that cheat it totally sucked i didnt even want tio kill someone cause i knew where they were and
i could get a HS everytime.... it was just no fun and thats why im still wondering why people cheat even if they are a total noob and cant kill a
bush...... only other times i use cheats is on 1 player mode and after i have beatin the game without cheats.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Havoc
Ok, from what I can tell I've had no problems so far, but that's just me, sure there's that guy who get's a bit annoying, but I've never yelled
cheater, I tried knifing the guy then forgot I had to kneel. Sometimes there's that guy that I blast from two feet away, but sometimes the game just
messes up, it's not always the player, the server could have a jump start of lagg, but I dunno so far I haven't seen a full proof cheat.
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Same goes for me. And if there's one thing that annoys me just as much as cheaters are those who yell "Cheat" constantly, with no proof (SS) of it.
Don't accuse if you don't have proof.
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My 2 cents (thats what the ol lady left me anyway lol)
I play BHD regularly with a 350 - 900ms ping depending on where the server is located. I am on dial up and dont have dsl available so have to deal
with a high ping.
I have yet to see a cheat. They are there Im sure but I havent caught one yet.
I read in these posts about people being partially transparent. This is NOT a glitch nor a cheat. There are certain places on the maps that you can
lay down and be partially invis. This was put there by novalogic and is part of the game.
Cheaters suck glitchers suck even worse. Why you ask?
A glitcher is someone who is actually cheating without using a trainer and believes he isnt cheating. Morons. I actually saw someone say it isnt a
glitch and was put in by the developers. (flagbay glitch DF2)
?????????????????????????????????????
Does that make any sence to yall normal people?
I saw somewhere in this thread about aiming better. I will agree with that 100%
As I play more and more (and figure out the dang lead i gotta do) I find that aim on BHD is a bigger part than on DF2. LEARN TO SHOOT.
Oh and having a high ping does not help at all. I die regardless and also have found that I can forget the m-16 and ar-15.
I also saw that you can shoot 200 rounds into a person without them dieing. I did that as a sniper in nova games. Me and another guy just shot each
other lol till I got knifed in the back. He was on dsl (so he says) couldnt kill me and yes he was hitting me cuz my character was "whining" and I
know dang well I was hitting him.Couldnt kill or be killed, by him anyway. Everyone else didnt seem to have a problem especially the guy that knifed
me. (JERK!!!!!!) LOL
Ok maybe that was a $1.50 but thats my scoop. Cheats are there yes. People who use them suck yes. My question is.........
Why the hell do you people continue to play in a room where there are cheaters? LEAVE!!!! When they realize noone wants to play with them and are
essentially (lol) playing with themselves, maybe they will stop and learn to play without trainers or glitching. I for one will NOT play in a room
where there are cheats. Yes they are running me out of the room but if they wanna follow me to a public server then they will be banned. Nova could
care less about cheats in nova servers. Why else would they not do anything about them.
Sorry a bit stoned and just got off work so Im gonna go find a knife server on DF2.
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