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NemesisMatch
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Cheaters are Us
I have a little wondering, is there a new cheat out or more? Seems like almost everyone is cheating these days, WHY?? I hate this, i hate this, i hate
this. Why do ppl need to cheat, is it because they SUCK? Played alot last week and if i had paper and pencil to write down every one thats cheated i
would need a ton of paper. Hate it. Any Cheatblocker coming up or do i have do change my gameplay to NOT gaming online???
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no1crs
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It makes me mad to. But honastly I think that it is the Berreta, which is a sniper and a full auto.
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NemesisMatch
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I can only say that its not the Barett LOL. Ive discoverd more cheaters the last day then it is playing Diablo online LOL. And i dont see the point in
it. Noone gets to be the best when they are cheating.
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Illusion *R*
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How do you know there cheating?
How do you know there cheating? Maybe it was jsut a bad connection in the server. And i swear..if your one of them that yell cheater when someone
doesn't die when you think they should, i'll come to your house a drag you out in your yard and beat the crap out of ya. Those people piss me off.
I've been playing BHD since the day it came out..and i have yet seen a cheater. I think most of the times its just n00bs that don't know the game
fully that cause a lot of the problems. If you don't know for sure don't accuse peeps. I mean the only cheat i know it the armory cheat.
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NemesisMatch
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LOL
Nice of you to defend the "little" ppl. Im not angry on you personally but when several guys from the same clan is cheating. You stand 5 meter from
them, they are lying still on the ground, you try to stab them (they dont notice you), then you take the car15 and blast 2 mag right in their back,
they notice you, turns around and then shots you with 1 single shot. And this hasnt happend once or twice. Lots of times. So if thats not cheating
then what is?
And theres more cheats and trainers out there. Dont forget the great lagtrainer that makes you wonder if they are shooting bullits around corners. You
die and then you see them run thru the corner LOL. That kind of cheat isnt that comon in Europe but in the hole Asian world its well used. And theres
a new xraycheat out to ive heard, havent come across it yet but i will soon i think.
We often have a talk among the ppl in our clan about cheaters and we havent understand yet WHY theres cheaters. It takes away the fun in the game,
[Censored]s up gameplay for everyone else and so on and on.
Greets
^NMS^Loki [C]
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24/7 killa
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lol n1 illusion
ive had problems but mostly due to bad connections. ppl vanishing or appearing in front of you. broadband only i say, give those with 56k modems there
own playground to play in. also to the bad players who cry cheat every time someone better than them kicks there ass, practice.. there are some class
players out there.give credit were credits due. thx
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NemesisMatch
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Yes i can agree to somethings like 56 k modem, but if you are the host youll see their ping and are the ping to high then you know what kind of
connection they have. But some are having a ping around 100 ms and still are hard to kill. 2-3 mags before they lay down. even if they are laying down
it takes 2-3 mags before they roll over LOL. and thats cheating, nothing else. And thats the kind of cheating im so bored off. And they have the nerve
to say that they dont cheat LOL. But i can say this. There is a cheatdetecter build in BHD but you have to switch it on manually everytime you start
hosting a server. it doesnt detect everything but some
Greets from
^NMS^Loki [C]
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Havoc
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Ok, from what I can tell I've had no problems so far, but that's just me, sure there's that guy who get's a bit annoying, but I've never yelled
cheater, I tried knifing the guy then forgot I had to kneel. Sometimes there's that guy that I blast from two feet away, but sometimes the game just
messes up, it's not always the player, the server could have a jump start of lagg, but I dunno so far I haven't seen a full proof cheat.
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DareDevil*BE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Havoc
Ok, from what I can tell I've had no problems so far, but that's just me, sure there's that guy who get's a bit annoying, but I've never yelled
cheater, I tried knifing the guy then forgot I had to kneel. Sometimes there's that guy that I blast from two feet away, but sometimes the game just
messes up, it's not always the player, the server could have a jump start of lagg, but I dunno so far I haven't seen a full proof cheat.
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exactly. I haven't had any problems either. This is all the people that think anyone who kills them is cheating.
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Bandit
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If you think people cheat try to aim better. when i have trouple killing a guy i had my m60 out i went full auto i could not hit him so i went like
5 round burst and hit him every time ( even though he said i cheated and banned me from his sever )  and if aim dosen't work get a transulater out he he he nade or at4. it always work 
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Horus
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yup cheats suk
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Killa_Dragon
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Cheats.
Nemesis i've experienced that problem so many times. there is a glitch where u CANNOT! kill people..its happend about 20 times in Stat servers.
But anyways yes CHEATS suck.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by NemesisMatch:
...That kind of cheat isnt that comon in Europe but in the hole Asian world its well used... |
Quite frankly I take offense to this statement. I'm from asia and have yet to see someone living in asia cheating in DF2 and BHD. We do have the same
problems. If you want to see my proof check this thread I made on our "FORUMS" ( http://www.dfworldleague.com/LoE/viewtopic.php?t=1926 )
And if you think having a high ping is an advantage. You haven't tried killing anyone with such a connection. If I have to choose between a low ping
connection and a high ping connection I would choose a low ping connection anytime, my guess is most if not all will do the same.
I hope you investigate what's going on before you accuse people of cheating. It's totally uncool.
| Quote: | Originally posted by NemesisMatch:
...Yes i can agree to somethings like 56 k modem, but if you are the host youll see their ping and are the ping to high then you know what kind of
connection they have... |
I don't have a wickedly fast connection 256kbps download and 128kbps upload, but at least that's 4 times faster than 56k. You don't judge ones
bandwidth with pingrate. Pingrates is more affected with distance then with bandwidth. Yes band width is a small factor but distance to the server is
the one that really affects it.
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Havoc
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Here's the deal all you people....
I play in one server every time I play BHD, actually two, but one regurally.
I've seen so many people who yell "cheat" everytime they start getting owned, I know this guy who NEVER cheats, but never dies, because he's a sniper
who studies each of the maps for 4 hours to find the perfect spot....
I've seen m-60 gunners who 124 kills back to back, but they don't cheat, they just don't have anything else to do so they play everyday and just keep
getting better....
Personally, everyone who calls "cheat" to me is someone that's pretty new to the game....
Give me a screenshot(s) of a fullproof cheat and I'll admit it, that there is a cheat, but don't give me crap about these people who don't die shot
after shot, that happens to me to I have the screenshots to it, but I just brushed it off.....
Give me proof, and you get me....
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DeAdLy SnIpEr
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u sure u werent just ACCUSING them of cheating? that happens alot in our server noobs come in and think they own and we start kicken their butt and
next thing u no they start yellin out "turn ur trainer off" "stop cheatin" "where can i get one of those trainers" stuff like that but it may just be
a bad connection to the server u no someone on dial up cant really match someone on cable if they get into a gun battle i think
hey havoc u ever come in xw?
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Bandit
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I found a cheater
I finnaly found a cheater. He was in tmmk squad. He had a speed cheat on. i finnly found one. the werid part is he said his squad makes trainers.
god what a loser squad 
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Havoc
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As I said I want proof, not talk, and no I've never been in xw
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Bandit
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how can i get a screen shot of a speed cheater?
when i took one of him it just looks like he was going prone.
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Havoc
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Everyone could say that they "saw" a speeder, people could say they "saw" someone not die when a m203 hit them in the face, I haven't seen any
speeders, and I've played at least 200 hours of gaming. Not one.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bandit
how can i get a screen shot of a speed cheater?
when i took one of him it just looks like he was going prone. |
take several ss as a series
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NemesisMatch
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Nice to see that this topic has gotten some response. The actually thing about cheaters are that they SUCK. And there are more and more cheats coming
out just for BHD. It all comes down to who is the best of fooling the server. The best cheat is the one that fools the server best. It all depends on
what you send to it. And cheats arent that hard to discover. And YES, there are a few glitches in Novas programing and preformance, but when a person
moves from one side of the map to another in 5 sec, and the map is over 700 meters long, thats CHEATING. No matter what anyone says.
The recent thing if discovered about cheaters are that they are causing a lag on the server. Probably because they send missinformation to the server
and the server dont know what to do with that information LOL.
The way i discovered this was one night I was hosting. A guy comes in and are very hard to kill and he moves fast. Then some ppl are starting to
complain about him. That he cheats and so on. So im starting to puntcrc the server. And so does my fellow teammates but it doesnt help. He keeps on
playing in his own style. Baseraping and spawnraping at the same time. 200 meter between the points and no way in hell he could see the 2 spots
without moving very fast or shooting straight in. And it was laggy, so i punted the jerk. The lag disapeared. He came back. Didnt say a word,
continued playing his way. The server started to lag so i punted him and the lag disapered.
Later on i found out that he has been reported to Nova and so on so that wasnt just us that wondered about if he was cheating or not.
And yes, i looked at his ping, between 150-400 all the time.
For last but not least I HATE CHEATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please continue this. Its needed to be talked over so any cheater can be banned from the Internet.
Greets
^NMS^Loki [C]
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Havoc
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Hey my ping is around 150-400 all the time, does that mean that I cheat? I get 111 kills with a CAR-15, do I cheat? I hit someone from at least 300 m
with a CAR-15, do I cheat? I'm a medic I fly when I shoot, do I cheat?
NO
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NemesisMatch
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As usual someone takes it personal and thinks that they are accused of cheating. HOW COME???? hiding something?
I never wrote any names
And if we are ever to win this war against cheater all should join in and expose them
Greets
^NMS^Loki [C]
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[EAW]AoL
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Havoc
Hey my ping is around 150-400 all the time, does that mean that I cheat? I get 111 kills with a CAR-15, do I cheat? I hit someone from at least 300 m
with a CAR-15, do I cheat? I'm a medic I fly when I shoot, do I cheat?
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111 kills with car15, lol, really utopic result :p
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Havoc
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I'm just saying that just because people have high pings and that they start owning doesn't mean that people have to start thinking cheat, nowadays
people just keep their mouth shut and wait until they have a good ss(s) of them
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