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Holy_Soldier
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VIDEO CARD SUGGESTIONS!!!
I was curious about something. I am going to build a new pc for myself, and i'm not sure what i should actually get for a video card...
But my problem is that i don't know if i should go with the Radeon 9700 Pro or with a GeForce 4. I heard that the 9700 pro has some compatibility
problems with some games, and the GeForce is better for gaming because it makes the graphics more crisp, but i figured I'd ask my fellow gamers their
opinions before i build this pc.
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Kitfoo
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Personally, I like ATI, so I'd go with the 9700. It has more RAM than the GeForce, and beat it in almost every category of performance. But, If you're
rich and like to blow your money, go with the GeForce. They're both good cards either way you go. If you get the GeForce, make sure you have plenty of
room in your case for that huge fan!
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Snip@
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actually ATI is well known for excellent and the best graphics u can find. I'd defently purchase the ATI if i was you... The Geoforce 4 is good but
the 9700 is way better.
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LAR~DAWG*posse*
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Go with the Geforce I never had a problem with it and everyone else I know with something other than Geforce always has some kind of problem
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If you want the best graphics possible not second best go with ATI 9700 because that has the best graphics money can buy. The geoforce nvidia
technology is downgraded to that of the ATI technology it uses two completely different technologies to create the graphics and you can tell a big
difference. And the only probs i've heard is with older video cards the newer ones i've not heard a single problem with.
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Holy_Soldier
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LOL
man looks like lots of people prefer the ATI...
Funny, it seems that the GeForce has cooler temps. when it comes to overclocking, but then i think...IF I HAVE AN ATI 9700 WHY WOULD I NEED TO
OVERCLOCK!! LOL...
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Holy_Soldier
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although!!!!
Something I DO REMEMBER...is that when BHD first came out with the Demo, a lot of people with the ATI 9700 had LOTS of problems with the game! They
were getting kicked out of the game and the computer was locking up a lot. ATI, believe it or not had to make an upgraded driver because they were
getting lots of complaints. After the driver was installed, there were no problems. With the GeForce 4 people, they had no problems what so ever...
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all my friends that have bhd demo never heard them complain about problems a lot of the time i think it might have been that the persons computer
wasn't really fast enough for the demo.
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Spike-701SQUAD
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I recently build my own pc AMD 2400 ASUS nforce 2 mobo 2*256 mb sdram and a 9700PRO and BHD runs like a sweet dream on highest ress with all detail
high. Btw I don't have any compatibility problems, even old games like Counter Strike work on my system.
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Holy_Soldier
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MAN!!!
THAT'S SHOCKING FOR YOU TO SAY YOUR OLD GAMES WORK!!!
i love Warcraft 2 a LOT...but it won't work on my PC cause of my video card (stupid crappy intel). And if it works great on counter strike, then it
will definitely work for warcraft 2. MAN...ok..
I'M GETTIN THE 9700 PRO!!!!!!!!!!!!
*unless GeForce in the next 2 months comes out with a video card that will smack down the 9700 pro...
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Kitfoo
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GeForce does have the 5400, but ATI trumped them and released the 9800. :D
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Holy_Soldier
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WOW
NVIDIA IS GOING TO KICK BUTT!!!
THE FX 5900!!!!!! IT HAS GREATED SHADOWING DETAIL THAN THE RADEON 9800!!! IT'S DESIGNED TO PERFECTLY RUN DOOM 3..
hmm...i wonder which card i'll get now...
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A.Bullet
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Well.. its hard to say..
If you want top of the line.. your gonna have two choices really soon..
You could already choose the
ATI 9800 Pro w/256MB DDR RAM
and in early June your gonna be able to get the brand new
GeForce FX 5900 w/256 MB DDR RAM
From the reviews I have read - the GeForce has more efficient memory architecture and is about equal to the ATI cards at lower resolutions - however
at the higher resolutions the GeForce FX 5900 was the hands down winner with almost 20% better performance than the ATI 9800 ..
However .. the anisotropic filtering is definitly better on the ATI cards as compared to the GeForce cards.. according to Anandtech..
Also.. its worth mentioning that the GeForce card will take up TWO expansion slots in your PC because of its size..
Both cards will pretty much blow your mind though.. but neither are cheap..
If your not looking for absolute top of the line.. but you still want a smoking card..
The GeForce FX 5600 and the ATI Radeon 9500 Pro are still smoking cards and are both available for about $200 as opposed to the $400 - $500 your
likely to pay for the top of the line models..
Driver issues aside.. the ATI Radeon 9500 Pro w/128 MB of DDR Ram beat out the GeForce FX 5600 w/128 MB RAM in virtually every resolution and with all
different settings when tested by Anandtech on Commanche 4 (which uses virtually the identical game engine as BHD)
either way im gonna get firsthand info soon.. LOL cause I definitly have to upgrade my card.. LOL mine is a lowly GeForce 4 MX 420 and its (ARGH) PCI
instead of AGP (please dont laugh LOL)
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Steptoe
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HaHaHaHaHa
sry couldnt help myself
I had gf since voodo was dumped with m64, never had a prob, runing gf 2 32 and 64 meg cards gf 440 and gf t14200 in machines here...
A.Bullet sums up well, if u have a money tree as a good alrounder get top line gf,
If its autumn ,the money tree bit bare, go gf 440, but if it is possible to get a couple more bucks at a streach get the 4200.
Choose brands carefully, there is a big diff between them, theres even a bit of diff between 2 cards purchased together, so dont let bench marks rule
your chioce
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I have a GeForce 4 , it works well. And the other is supposed to be better, correct?
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Holy_Soldier
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Lets put it this way...
The PC I am building is...
AMD 3000 w/ motherboard
1 Gig DDR 3200 Ram
2 - 80 Gig 7200 RPM Hard drives (160 total)
1 - 20 Gig 7200 RPM Hard drive dedicated to my OS
*Final choice was ATI Radeon 9000 w/ 128 MB DDR Ram
Creative Labs Audigy Gamer
3 Case fans, 2 Hard Drive Fans, Dual Exhaust pipes.
This will be complete and running at the end of july....
So you think that DFBHD will be running smooth? 
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*HEAVY*METAL*
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LAUGH ALL YOU WANT
IVE BEEN PLAYIN WITH A NIVEDIA 32 BIT GRAPHICS CARD .HOPE 2 UPGRADE SOON I THINK MY 1.GIG PROSSER ATHALON AND 512RAM IS KEEPIN ME GOING
.UNBALEAVEABLE.MAYBE THATS WHY WHEN I HOST PEOPLE GET AUTO PUNTED CEPT 4 ABOUT 4 PEOPLE I SURE HOPE 2 UPGARDE SOON?GFORCE OR ATI WICH EVER FITS MY BUDGET?:o
*HEAVY*METAL*WARRIOR*
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Holy_Soldier
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hmmm...
With the type of system I listed above...how many people do you think i can host effectively especially if i use Opti Run.. (I have BroadBand
Cable...)
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IceQueen~RGR
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Don't mean to be ignorant, but...
How do you dedicate a hard drive for a video card? What does that do for the performance of the server and for play?
Which commercial system is best compared to cost?
Alienware, Gateway, Dell, Voodoo?
I am no expert and can't build a puter, but am looking to get out of my 1Ghz, P3 Gf2, 40 Gig HD 512 Ram 3 year old computer....
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yourbuilding same pc as me basically.... lol i'm getting the 128 fx i'm not redy to shell out 1200 for a video card lol....
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dang lol i only got a 600mhz celeron right now
lol with 20 gig hard drive a new geforce 4 mx 440 se lol
64mb video card cuz the voodoo 5 wasn't cutting it thats a temp video card though lol
and 256 mb ram and your compaining because u have a gighz lmfao dud ei'd be jumping for joy if i had that pc right now lol instead i gotta save al il
money each week and get a new processor along with epox motherboar di'm getting lol
i'm getting the 2500 duron amd chip overclocked to 3000 lol runs faster than the regular 3000 lol....
much nicer lol
i think its duron not sure its osmething thst starts with d lol don't remembner now i'm too tired so oh well u probably know what i'm tlaking
about.....but i'm getting a gig or 512 and then 256 mb of ram not sure which way i'm going yet i need lots of ram though lol
but the geforce fx 256 mb video card is freakign 1200 dollars lol not wanting to pay that much lol i've already put 200 into a brand new case with
better airflow along with new cdrom/cdrw/dvd/dvdrw lol
and new powersupply my new case has neons and [Censored] on it freaking awesome but yea the 128 mb version of the fx is only 200
lol
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Holy_Soldier
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Dunno
Man i've heard so many good things about the Radeon 9800 Pro, but the new Nvidia GeForce that just game out blows the 9800 Pro away when it comes to
shadowing...
i'm still so confused...
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Eagle_Eye
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Lets not forget, any company can put a video chip on a card, it's how they put it there that matters. So whatever chipset you choose, check up on the
maker, like Sapphire for ATI chipped cards and Leadtek for Nvidea chipped cards.
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Death[ltgen]
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get the 9800 pro. i just bought it, and its works great. i really recommend it and ive read some reviews on both and it seems that people really enjoy
the 9800 over some of the geforce cards. i recommend the one that was made to blow away the competition, 9800 of course.
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Holy_Soldier
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Agreed...
Unless they drastically lower the price of the GeForce 5900...i'm gonna get the Radeon...why? Cause Radeon came out with a better card than the 9800
pro, but it's $500. I'm glad they came out with it, cause it cut the price of the 9800 pro in half.
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