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HumanTarget
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Quote: | Originally posted by m21
denouce things that is purely a good product because they hav'nt finished their mod and are jeolous that they are not in the limelight.
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Only BHD mod i have been apart of is the War on Terror mod. where my skins were used without my consent. I'm in no way worried about the lime light.
My skins get me enough for me. I said what i did because i'd like to see the skinning improve, and have previously offered my services to the mod
team. U don't want to listen to me that's ur guys choice, I just want to see polished mods appearing to truely keep the game alive.
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Eagle_Eye
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| Quote: | Originally posted by m21
it will be pointed out that the admin here at DFB are jeolous because terranova it so dead..a mod they were envolved in.....You guys have really shot
yourselfs in the foot on this one.:P
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I don't recall making any comments against your for your mod..so how did I shoot myself in the Foot???
I will download it for a test..as I haven't yet done so..
I haven't authorised the news Item you posted yet, after your danging comments, I will have to wait till I take a look at the mod..then I will make a
personal decision about it..
Any new mod is welcome, it's about time someone used all these items people have been building for months..
Any new mod may also need a tidy up patch..be sure you let us know if you create one..
Our DFB mod is still under production, but will not include new weapons or terrains, just new mapping items..
The views of other moderators are their views, and not that of the Owners of DFB..so keep that in mind before you bad mouth anyone..
The Terranova mod isn't dead, it's just like any other game/mod..it's on the back shelf, yours will be there in 6 months as well, cos people move
on..the same will happen with our DFB mod, but, if we can give users something new, at least we have all achieved somethin, even if it only lasts a
short while.
Please keep in mind, that the Terranova Mod was achieved before the Mod Tools where released....you had an advantage, they told you what to do..we had
to figure it all out..LOL..
You should read Commando*Bo$*'s post..he has it all right there..
To all you other guys..fair go..a mod is not easy to direct, if you have a comment about this mod, don't make it personal..it's like map
rating..personal feeling should be left out, good and bad points mentioned, with some positive feedback these guys can work with to give a better
update..
Thanks
EE
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bs2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Eagle_Eye
The Terranova mod isn't dead, it's just like any other game/mod..it's on the back shelf, yours will be there in 6 months as well, cos people move
on..the same will happen with our DFB mod, but, if we can give users something new, at least we have all achieved somethin, even if it only lasts a
short while.
Thanks
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EE is right...its hard to make a MOD everyone will want to keep...even if it offers whats in the original game and more... You're probably going
to discover this soon.
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SonicDeath
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lol
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My skins get me enough for me. I said what i did because i'd like to see the skinning improve, and have previously offered my services to the mod
team. U don't want to listen to me that's ur guys choice
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Yeah Human Target....it does seem like the only people that [Censored] were the people that wanted to have there products in the mod
and were not allowed too. ...like your skins and Craigs models. But you show your colors to everyone who has played the mod. So it really hurts you
...not us.
And Eagle Eye...I don't believe your the only admin here at DFB....
You are right about one thing though...we had the mod tools available...thats why every building is a true workable building unlike the terranova
mod....which only a handful has an interier. The models in Black Operations look better than Nova's in most cases and Deathwish99's gun models look
super on most every gun....admittly a few are not as good as the others but all and all I'm proud as hell to be involved with the project. There will
be a huge update to this mod where we will add at least 8 new weapons and about a hundred new buildings and add the animation for rain and snow.
You know , I would of loved to to tell people yeah...look at DFB for news but you snooze you loose. Every other resource site has a front page news
about the mod....Thats the problem here I'd imagine....to much self improtance going around.
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SonicDeath
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oh and Craig
| Quote: | Originally posted by craigdavies2003
well i did originally talk to razor and told him the flaws and asked him if there would be an update. he said "ppl take their hats off to me and it
doesnt need an updtae" then he blocked me. thats what pissed me off. thats y i made that post |
You need to take a growup pill or something.....
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craigdavies2003
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lol i was rejected 1 model and im glad. it woul have kick the rests butt. plus alot of th stuff in mod has been taken from other mods or atleast been
given idea from other mods. i would still rather play TN exp than blackops. and human targets skins are in a way higher league than the ones in your
mod. a least he like draws detail and doesnt just copy and paste a texture on top.
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Delta_Seeker
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I do have to say that some of the people on the team are stuck up because i talked to the the person who made the skins before the mod came out and he
said that the skins look grate and how the mod will be better then all.
and human taget the dude that was head of this mod was the on who made the "war on terror mod" I offered to help them with skins on this mod and they
siad that there skinner was good.....lol lol all the skins look like they been ran through a plugin
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oscar-ghostrecon--
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huh ¡
I believe that they would have but to be been thankful, to do one mod is very complicated
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SEC Shootre
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yea i offered to help with thier skins too but they said they already had a good skinner and we've all commented on the skins already.
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HumanTarget
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Registered: 10-1-2003
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Quote: | Originally posted by m21
it does seem like the only people that [Censored] were the people that wanted to have there products in the mod and were not allowed
too. ...
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Actually mine probably arnt in there because i gave Razor, and SonicDeath a roasting over stealing mine and other skinners work for the previous mod.
Check the skins in that one, they are all done by me and ^eA†ER^DƒS. During the conversation i said that all they had to do was ask and i'd give
help. I never offered any of my already made skins.
What i am doing now is pointing out what should have been done with the skins. Glaring problems which only a blind man could not have noticed, and
problems which i have fixed for others in the past.
If those associated with the mod which to not take heed of advice given by those who have done this stuff for alot longer, so be it. But don't be so
surprised when the constructive criticism is given. And since alot of those skinners on the list are guys who asked my advice early on, like a
teacher disappointed in his student so am i.
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Eagle_Eye
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| Quote: | Originally posted by m21
And Eagle Eye...I don't believe your the only admin here at DFB....
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No, but out of the 5 Admins, 2 are just there cos they are previous owners, one is there as a support, and one is the owner..AB..I'm the other one who
manages the site.
Either way, none of then had commented on your Mod.
I don't believe I abused you above eother..in fact, I was very cool about being bashed by a member..lol..
As I stated above..I will download and test your mod, then I'll have my own opinion...not one of DFB's, but my own..
If you had seen fit to email, or U2U me about the release of your mod, it may have already appeared on our Home Page..
Also, in my above post..I supported your cause...so you don't need to insult us any more..just take any comment, and create a patch if you have to, if
the comments are not too bad, then leave it as it is..don't take them to heart, use the info to your advantage..
Just because one member doesn't like your Mod, that's no need to dump DFB as a site you visit..all the comments here are not those of DFB, but
members, you need to accept the fact that some people are not going to like it..that's life..
EE
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Commando*Bo$*
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Eagle_Eye
Also, in my above post..I supported your cause...so you don't need to insult us any more..just take any comment, and create a patch if you have to, if
the comments are not too bad, then leave it as it is..don't take them to heart, use the info to your advantage..
Just because one member doesn't like your Mod, that's no need to dump DFB as a site you visit..all the comments here are not those of DFB, but
members, you need to accept the fact that some people are not going to like it..that's life..
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i agree with Eagles comments. couldnt have said it better myself.
"Maybe I was brave, I don't know. At the time I was just doing the job, I didn't have time for other thoughts."
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Þoncho
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While it is a good mod that will indeed refreshen the game, I dont think there was enough testing on it.
I saw many things (as a player) that had me wondering. I wont go through my whole discrepancy list but here are a few:
1). Glock 18c .... did you not think I would not notice there was no extended mag?
2). SL (sniper weapon) looks like a metal branch
3). G11......looks like a metal blocl with a red dot on it.
4).snow/desert skin with hood......has a huge split down the seams when you left lean
5). Steel railing and ladders...dont even look realistic
6). I shot at the hummer from behind by accident as realised that the bullet riccochets were still hitting the hummer well after i had shot at it.
Like I said, i wont mention all the bugs and such,. Its those little things and in the case of this mod.....there are plenty and I mean
plenty....something that alot of testing would have seen.
Still, its the best major mod since the Terranova mod, and like Terranova, the Black Ops mod will too liven the game for us players.
btw, Commando*Bo$*, I think it was you who mentioned the XM8 a while back to be used by the U.S military.....well it just failed a major test while
in the Arctic climates......so no more XM8
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deathwish99
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There should be an update coming with new wepons for the black ops mod and they will be better with new items and such, so just keep that in mind.
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Þoncho
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There were a couple of weapons i thought looked sweeettt.
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SEC Shootre
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deathwish when should the update come out?
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Brokenmachine
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What is up with all this bad mouthing?
Terranova had a big influence on this mod, don't believe me..look at the credits.
Cr@ck, the guy with the green thumb and also a Terranova member donated a good hand full of excellent models. Like the trees, and buildings.. temples
and stuff.
Vlad, also a good friend of Terranova donated lots of his models from his russian mod to the Black Ops team.
Myself, a new Terranova member helped out teaching some of the Black Ops crew how to use the OED, how to name things in max, and even how to setup
alpha channels on foliage textures.
We had a fun time working on this mod and got to know some of the new school modders comming up in the community.
Deathwish did a good job on the weapons also. Before you chime in, I will agree that they were not perfect but good enough. They can only get better
from this point.
I talked to Razor and he does plan on making a patch.. its only their first complete mod and they were trying to get some feedback on it so they can
improve it.
The mod is worth downloading, I enjoyed it alot. The only thing I did not like was joining a mod server only to find out the map in rotation was
"mean streets".. kind of defeats the purpose of a mod.. but the host was to blame for that one lol.
Kill the ego guys, please.
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Eagle_Eye
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Brokenmachine, exactly my point..don't take any comments as "Bad Mouthing"..take them as feedback..
I finally downloaded this Mod, and took a quick look..whilst I like it in general, there is a bit of tidying up to do, which really should have been
done after the beta, and before official release..
I know..you guys are excited about the Mod, and you should be..but don't let that get in your way of doing it right the first time..
The DFB mod is still under wraps..it's been months on our part..we'll get there..hopefully without too may mishaps..
No doubt we will have our faults, and someone will can it..but, as said above, thats life..
No one is disputing the reputation of those that gave their all for the Mod..we all appreciate the time and effort..
There are a few nagging things that I found..I may make a short list and U2U m21 with them when I get a chance..
Cr@ck did a top job on those trees..maybe he can do some for our Mod as well..I'll have to ask him..
Great Job guys..
EE
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SonicDeath
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ummm
What I see is a lot of people that don't do crap for the communitty complaining to the ones that do....Poncho...what do you do for the communitty
other than complain? My guess is you have made a couple of maps and complain and act self important. Sure everybody has a right to there own opinion
but if you think your Opinion is worth something...go UMF's site and post your concerns.
The update will be out when we feel it is the right time to release it if ever....
Speaking for myself and Razor we are pretty sick of people like poncho and Human target complaining in the wrong places and whining about small stuff
without even coming to our site . Go to UmF's site make your case...maybe it will get fixed ....if not STHU and go make a map or something! Sorry to
be rude, but we are so sick of people being negative and it only happens here. I say ...you want something fixed ....go to the proper site and take
the 5 mins it takes to post your negativity and post it their.
About DFB... I'm not down on the site for this...its an on going problem which seems to never be fixed.... How would you like it if I shutdown the dl
link for the mod because I didn't like the comments of a few....that would be moronic and bad for the communitty.
Its all about trying to make the game a little different and add cool models so us mappers have some new toys to play with.
EE , I do thank you for posting a story about the EXP and would glad to give you updates a news before it happens ....
my icq # 269647432
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Commando*Bo$*
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Þoncho
btw, Commando*Bo$*, I think it was you who mentioned the XM8 a while back to be used by the U.S military.....well it just failed a major test while
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really? what a disapointment, it looked extremely well designed and almost sounded flawless.
M21 understand what Eagle and so many of us have posted.
Poncho gave you a few areas that needs fixing, he wasnt complaing he was merely pointing out where you could fix something.
nobody is trying to put down this mod, everyone is trying to give you feedback about what to fix and what they would like to see in an update, Like i
said thats how:
City Nights for MOHAA (CN)
Point of Existence BFV (POE)
Heat of Battle COD (HOB)
Desert Combat BF1942 (DC)
Eve of Destruction BF1942 and BFV (EOD)
survived and built up a fanbase, they asked, surveyed the public in what areas need improvement and what they would like to see.
All of this is called Constructive Critcism.
Again we have stated that our comments is our own not of DFB, blaming DFB is not going to get you anywhere.
"Maybe I was brave, I don't know. At the time I was just doing the job, I didn't have time for other thoughts."
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Timber3050
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lmfao M21. Poncho merely explained a few errors. He never said the mod sucked. what he gave you was constructive criticism that can help you. what do
you do? You make some ignorant comment like "STHU"
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Still, its the best major mod since the Terranova mod, and like Terranova, the Black Ops mod will too liven the game for us players
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Did you even bother reading? he says the mods great al the same, and you immediately bad mouth.
And HT is probably the best skinner around. He's skins were in a sense "stolen" for the terror mod, and know that he's told you errors about present
skins your bad mouthing him too.
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Þoncho
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Poncho...what do you do for the communitty other than complain? My guess is you have made a couple of maps and complain and act self important. Sure
everybody has a right to there own opinion but if you think your Opinion is worth something...go UMF's site and post your concerns.
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dude....get off your high horse
I am as one would say a "customer", when I receive or in this case download the Black Ops mod, i expect that with the crew that you stated, the mod
would be awesome. Has it it?? I think it has done its part, but it has flaws. As far as ive been addressed a following update should correct some
of my concerns.
It seems that anyone who critiques the mod, doesnt not agree with you that the Black Ops mod is the best thing since sliced bread or agree with you
period is "the enemy who is out to get the Black Ops mod".....
I dont claim to know about modelling, nor do I claim about skinning, but judging by your post to me in rant and rave, I dont deserve that right to
voice my concern because i dont model or skin.
I never said i didnt like the mod, in fact i played using the mod lastnight, but for some reason it seems that you get so bent out of shape when ppl
critique it.
As far as placing my concerns on umf's website, why should I.......your the one who opened the topic here.
Anyhow, on to something worth mentioning, im eagerly awaiting the update?
(psst......before someone rips into me..keep up the good work)
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craigdavies2003
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human target does not just make maps and has a right to complain.considering his skins weres stolen in the last mod you guys made. he only pointed
that your skins had errors. and i think u guys out of spite detest me. as this all started by razor taking my idea of an update. which he said u didnt
need. and whats all this stuff about. nova inside is best. i dont want MY mod posted at nova inside. so u cant use that as a threat to me.
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Eagle_Eye
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OK Craig, we get the picture that you and these guys don't get along...now that's enough comment here mate..take it to email, or U2U..
Leave comments here that are not personal..
Thanks
EE
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craigdavies2003
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eagle eye u replied to my submit a download post?
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