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Info about Black Operations EXP

SonicDeath - 1-30-2005 at 05:12 AM

The world has been ravaged by terrorists. America has been attacked with biological weapons and has retreated from Iraq. London has been leveled with a nuclear suitcase bomb and again Britian feels alone. France has fallen to Al Qaeda's new army that sprang from Iraq and is attacking the free counties of the world through unrestricted warfare and sheer terror. The President of the United States has called on the last of the special forces to wage war through what we call....

Black Operations







-Wage war with 17 new weapons
not before seen in Black Hawk down Team Sabre.



-Play on totally newly designed Multiplayer maps or make your own with the new mission editor that has 91 new objects to choose from



-Fight in snow ,desert, or new jungle settings with much new jungle foilage



-Make yourself blend in with the 5 new player skins



-Play a gunner and now be able to site your weapon with the new iron sites for all of the gunner weapons



-Be a CIA op or Special Forces op



-Cringe as the 114 new sounds make you feel like your really on the battlefield





The time is now for Black Operations

Sites:

http://blackoperations.webhop.net


http://umf.webhop.net



bs2 - 1-30-2005 at 06:56 AM

sites dont work....but this mod sounds dang good!

bs2 - 1-30-2005 at 06:57 AM

Fixed link.....

http://blackoperations.webhop.net

yeah

SonicDeath - 1-31-2005 at 02:14 AM

there is something wrong with the coding in these forums...its puts a /> on the end of the links if you copy and paste them.

ƒáçlôñ mg§ - 2-8-2005 at 03:49 AM

link still dnt work

Asylum - 2-8-2005 at 06:45 AM

the full version of the mod is available for download here www.umf.webhop.net

new weapons

WRecKLeSS~MOH~ - 2-8-2005 at 08:23 PM

I was wondering why the weapons in the mod say they are ( SD ) but they are not infact silenced at all, The ones that donot indicate it; they are silenced. Also what is the difference in the various player classes ( is it just the skins used or actual weapon kits).

umm

SonicDeath - 2-11-2005 at 03:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WRecKLeSS~MOH~
I was wondering why the weapons in the mod say they are ( SD ) but they are not infact silenced at all, The ones that donot indicate it; they are silenced. Also what is the difference in the various player classes ( is it just the skins used or actual weapon kits).


A few things were over looked...minor flaws if you ask me.....the charactors are skin based and terian based...look at the umf map forums for tips in making maps....
All in all I think most would agree that there is nothing like this mod to date. Its basicly a free EXP :o

WRecKLeSS~MOH~ - 2-11-2005 at 05:28 PM

I do like the mod, but i do feel its incomplete compared to the Terranova EXP. The weapons in the black ops mod dont really offer what their real world counterparts do . In example is the OICW - in the mod it didnt offer a explosive round just the rifle
------ oicw -----

Just small things that i am wondering about and are they going to be implemented later on.

HumanTarget - 2-11-2005 at 07:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by m21
A few things were over looked...minor flaws if you ask me.....the charactors are skin based and terian based...look at the umf map forums for tips in making maps....
All in all I think most would agree that there is nothing like this mod to date. Its basicly a free EXP :o


Terranova would be beyond this, without the errors.

craigdavies2003 - 2-12-2005 at 05:50 AM

CRAP! this mod is crap, full of errors and crap. the weapons are blocks. the mussel flashes are wrong way facing oicw is wrong. alot of text id's are wrong only good thing about mod is menu backgrounds. the hummer snow skin looks like a white and speckled image. no details at all. characters skin has no alpha so is way shiny.weapons with nades fire from same place as bullet. and when i told razor the leadero of the mod this. he says well people take there hats off to me and there are no errors the wentoffline. i say dont even download this mod. they say they are gonna beat new terranovamod and myne because i havent advertised myne yet. ???. noobs. sorry if im being harsh but atleast the new TN mod and russian mod and my mod and other mods have had some thoght and been edited after beta not just used beta as fun test

ummm

SonicDeath - 2-12-2005 at 06:19 AM

craigdavies2003...your seem a little jeolous...could it be that your mod sucked? And since you didn't mention your mod ...i bet it does...lol

did terranova have 46 servers ever ...hell no...terranova is taken from c4....what three new weapons...its can't even compare to Black Operations.... While it was a good mod ....it seems jeolosy rears its ugly head. We made this mod for the communitty. People love it...its set records and up the bar on any future projects....it will be pointed out that the admin here at DFB are jeolous because terranova it so dead..a mod they were envolved in.....You guys have really shot yourselfs in the foot on this one.:P

Might wanna check out the update...we gonna have something special just for U lol

craigdavies2003 - 2-12-2005 at 07:09 AM

jealousy?jealousy? what of the height fof your heads in clouds. TN first mod wasnt that good due to like of mod tools. and blackops doesnt set records believe me if i release dmyne now it would kick blackops a*s

Timber3050 - 2-12-2005 at 07:20 AM

"could it be that your mod sucked?"

Hasn't been released, so you can't say sucked. Plus he's been working hard on it alone and has gotten an assload of cool things in it

"did terranova have 46 servers"

Actually, it had almost 2 pages for a few weeks. lets see, I think its 50 servers a page

"its set records and up the bar on any future projects"

I'm sorry, but it hasn't

Also craig, I don't think its right to call it total crap. They worked hard on it and do deserve credit

Timber3050 - 2-12-2005 at 07:26 AM

Lets also note that most mods never do last more than a few months. BO probably won't either. And if I remember, TN is very deep into TN EXP 2, unless thats been changed.

HumanTarget - 2-12-2005 at 07:36 AM

None of the admins here are apart of TN anymore.

also for the jealousy part, i've never been apart of any mod team officially, and since my skins were used for the first mod, wouldn't say mine are crap by any long shot. BUT, how any of the creators of this mod missed the stuff up on the alpha channels, and also the lack of detail on alot of the skins concerns me. it's not that hard to put the detail in to a reasonable level.

Yes TN only had a few weapons...(was more than three but not going to nit pick) but they worked as they are supposed to. those involved in the mod could have done alot better than they did. it looks to me like they rushed it. which is a pity.

also if u want to attack how long TN EXP survived, maybe u should also remember that TS came out about a week later. they were unlucky on that. TN would have been alot more popular if it hadn't been for that. u guys havent had to put up with that.

*These opinons are mine, and not the property of any admin at this site.*

Yeah

SonicDeath - 2-12-2005 at 07:55 AM

Well, I'm done with this BS at this site...
its a huge success and if you deny that your an idiot! And everybody knows it who have played it. But thats your goal I'd imagine , to get people not to try it. I'm so sick of people in this game who think they can denouce things that is purely a good product because they hav'nt finished their mod and are jeolous that they are not in the limelight. I'm all for new mods because it builds on the DF comminitty. I'm sure the new mods that are gonna be released will be great and I'm looking forward to them....Why does everything have to be a contest?
But honestly, I expected this when I posted this on this site. So I'm not surprised at all. For the 10% that always have something bad to say about something no matter what...shame on you...for the 90% that like it and praise it , we do it for you.


I've heard that the newest terra mod is going to be great and blow away ours ...and thats great if you ask me. Its all about making the game fun. So cheers to the people that work hard for the communitty and shame on you that go against what is in the best interest of the communitty!

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deathwish99 - 2-12-2005 at 09:55 AM

There may be alot of things wrong with the mod and u stated some of them in which are true but you didn't have to say it was crap. You could of said it was ok but you could improve on stuff then listed the stuff, but no, you had to say it was crap because you are immature. Just because you have a good mod thatll be coming out doesnt mean you have to be all ****y and think you are the only good modder out there. Then I've just heard you told Razor that the guns sucked and all, I will be blocking you from MSN sence you cant prove that you are grown up.
BTW: We never said itd beat your mod or russian mod or new terranova, i never expected that from this mod I only thought it would be decent, so obvously you are making up crap and u also said to not download the mod, yet here sits 2,000 downloads at nova inside and 500 some at UMF and most enjoy it and my friends are having a good time with it and after all isnt that what relaly matters? You may have some of the besttt looking models ever seen in bhd yet but idk if people wanna download a mod from a immature little kid.

I got it!

dzine - 2-12-2005 at 10:20 AM

...and I think it's pretty cool! It's not perfect but it sure deserves a lot of credit.
Must have taken a lot of time to come together and it adds a lot more to the game in general... I can't stop playing it!!!

Delta_Seeker - 2-12-2005 at 10:34 AM

ok i dont know way im even getting involed but here we go. I think the mod is ok there is alot of stuff that was rushed into the mod and well there are some errors like a freaking full auto sr-25sd and a 40round clip on the ok but ill give them credit for trying there best to pull it off but plz could you spend more time on it.

now last time i check there was like 40 servers and like 60 people lol and only like 10 servers had people in them but that is pretty good compaired to all the other mods out there other then terranova and well i would rate this a the #2 mod eright now under terranova being first but saddy there are some big mods coming out soon that are error free and have had more time spent on them that will probly pwns this on but good work on your first real mod that did more then .def and skin changes....im tired now bye

it was just a few questions

WRecKLeSS~MOH~ - 2-12-2005 at 12:03 PM

When you guys start talking about someone or are directing comments toward someone atleast put their name in, i started by asking a few non-abusive simple questionns that have now turned into a mini flame fest.

The mod is pretty good and the guys that worked on it did a good job as it was most likely their first mod. Every mod or community object...even stuff from nova has flaws.

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deathwish99 - 2-12-2005 at 01:55 PM

Niceley put.;)

Commando*Bo$* - 2-12-2005 at 03:13 PM

if i may add to this already heated topic.

Mods arent something you put together in a few hours, its something that takes weeks, months years even to put together,

to say "this mod is crap" is wrong, sure your mod maybe better but you shouldnt put down other peoples work just because you think its not good or even to your standards (some mods (not any in BHD) truely have no intent to them but thats beside the point), what would happen if the community started to say bad things about your mod?

The first attempt was a ok, but that shouldnt stop you from updating it and improving it, fix up some of those problems, listen to the suggestions and ideas of fellow players, update it with new stuff and no doubt about it your mod will hit with popularity (Thats how POE, EOD, DC, CN, HOB survived and built a large fan base).

Mistakes are apart of life, everyone and everything makes mistakes. even the greatest of mods have flaws and glitches to them and even the greatest of modders make mistakes here and there, but to overcome mistakes you have to get up and try again. nothing is perfect like Wreckless said.

Note: if your wondering ive been in two mod teams for CoD, one never got off the ground, one is about 45% finished and im planning to join another with a few friends from the mod im working on now,

SEC Shootre - 2-12-2005 at 05:07 PM

here is bugs
-SD weapons not really silenced
-Skins are meshed
-weapons are blocky

yea i do agree with many of the posts here

and m21 it's not the site giving out the stress it's the people at it.i'm a webbuilder and i understand how hard it is to make and manage a website.but don't blame the website

craigdavies2003 - 2-12-2005 at 06:15 PM

well i did originally talk to razor and told him the flaws and asked him if there would be an update. he said "ppl take their hats off to me and it doesnt need an updtae" then he blocked me. thats what pissed me off. thats y i made that post

HumanTarget - 2-12-2005 at 06:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by m21
denouce things that is purely a good product because they hav'nt finished their mod and are jeolous that they are not in the limelight.


Only BHD mod i have been apart of is the War on Terror mod. where my skins were used without my consent. I'm in no way worried about the lime light. My skins get me enough for me. I said what i did because i'd like to see the skinning improve, and have previously offered my services to the mod team. U don't want to listen to me that's ur guys choice, I just want to see polished mods appearing to truely keep the game alive.

Eagle_Eye - 2-12-2005 at 09:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by m21
it will be pointed out that the admin here at DFB are jeolous because terranova it so dead..a mod they were envolved in.....You guys have really shot yourselfs in the foot on this one.:P



I don't recall making any comments against your for your mod..so how did I shoot myself in the Foot???

I will download it for a test..as I haven't yet done so..

I haven't authorised the news Item you posted yet, after your danging comments, I will have to wait till I take a look at the mod..then I will make a personal decision about it..

Any new mod is welcome, it's about time someone used all these items people have been building for months..

Any new mod may also need a tidy up patch..be sure you let us know if you create one..

Our DFB mod is still under production, but will not include new weapons or terrains, just new mapping items..

The views of other moderators are their views, and not that of the Owners of DFB..so keep that in mind before you bad mouth anyone..

The Terranova mod isn't dead, it's just like any other game/mod..it's on the back shelf, yours will be there in 6 months as well, cos people move on..the same will happen with our DFB mod, but, if we can give users something new, at least we have all achieved somethin, even if it only lasts a short while.

Please keep in mind, that the Terranova Mod was achieved before the Mod Tools where released....you had an advantage, they told you what to do..we had to figure it all out..LOL..

You should read Commando*Bo$*'s post..he has it all right there..

To all you other guys..fair go..a mod is not easy to direct, if you have a comment about this mod, don't make it personal..it's like map rating..personal feeling should be left out, good and bad points mentioned, with some positive feedback these guys can work with to give a better update..

Thanks
EE

bs2 - 2-13-2005 at 04:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Eagle_Eye

The Terranova mod isn't dead, it's just like any other game/mod..it's on the back shelf, yours will be there in 6 months as well, cos people move on..the same will happen with our DFB mod, but, if we can give users something new, at least we have all achieved somethin, even if it only lasts a short while.

Thanks
EE


EE is right...its hard to make a MOD everyone will want to keep...even if it offers whats in the original game and more... You're probably going to discover this soon.

lol

SonicDeath - 2-13-2005 at 04:08 AM
Quote:

My skins get me enough for me. I said what i did because i'd like to see the skinning improve, and have previously offered my services to the mod team. U don't want to listen to me that's ur guys choice



Yeah Human Target....it does seem like the only people that [Censored] were the people that wanted to have there products in the mod and were not allowed too. ...like your skins and Craigs models. But you show your colors to everyone who has played the mod. So it really hurts you ...not us.

And Eagle Eye...I don't believe your the only admin here at DFB....


You are right about one thing though...we had the mod tools available...thats why every building is a true workable building unlike the terranova mod....which only a handful has an interier. The models in Black Operations look better than Nova's in most cases and Deathwish99's gun models look super on most every gun....admittly a few are not as good as the others but all and all I'm proud as hell to be involved with the project. There will be a huge update to this mod where we will add at least 8 new weapons and about a hundred new buildings and add the animation for rain and snow.

You know , I would of loved to to tell people yeah...look at DFB for news but you snooze you loose. Every other resource site has a front page news about the mod....Thats the problem here I'd imagine....to much self improtance going around.

oh and Craig

SonicDeath - 2-13-2005 at 04:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by craigdavies2003
well i did originally talk to razor and told him the flaws and asked him if there would be an update. he said "ppl take their hats off to me and it doesnt need an updtae" then he blocked me. thats what pissed me off. thats y i made that post



You need to take a growup pill or something.....

craigdavies2003 - 2-13-2005 at 05:18 AM

lol i was rejected 1 model and im glad. it woul have kick the rests butt. plus alot of th stuff in mod has been taken from other mods or atleast been given idea from other mods. i would still rather play TN exp than blackops. and human targets skins are in a way higher league than the ones in your mod. a least he like draws detail and doesnt just copy and paste a texture on top.

Delta_Seeker - 2-13-2005 at 05:52 AM

I do have to say that some of the people on the team are stuck up because i talked to the the person who made the skins before the mod came out and he said that the skins look grate and how the mod will be better then all.

and human taget the dude that was head of this mod was the on who made the "war on terror mod" I offered to help them with skins on this mod and they siad that there skinner was good.....lol lol all the skins look like they been ran through a plugin

huh ¡

oscar-ghostrecon-- - 2-13-2005 at 08:35 AM

I believe that they would have but to be been thankful, to do one mod is very complicated

SEC Shootre - 2-13-2005 at 09:16 AM

yea i offered to help with thier skins too but they said they already had a good skinner and we've all commented on the skins already.

HumanTarget - 2-13-2005 at 01:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by m21
it does seem like the only people that [Censored] were the people that wanted to have there products in the mod and were not allowed too. ...


Actually mine probably arnt in there because i gave Razor, and SonicDeath a roasting over stealing mine and other skinners work for the previous mod. Check the skins in that one, they are all done by me and ^eA†ER^DƒS. During the conversation i said that all they had to do was ask and i'd give help. I never offered any of my already made skins.

What i am doing now is pointing out what should have been done with the skins. Glaring problems which only a blind man could not have noticed, and problems which i have fixed for others in the past.

If those associated with the mod which to not take heed of advice given by those who have done this stuff for alot longer, so be it. But don't be so surprised when the constructive criticism is given. And since alot of those skinners on the list are guys who asked my advice early on, like a teacher disappointed in his student so am i.

Eagle_Eye - 2-13-2005 at 08:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by m21

And Eagle Eye...I don't believe your the only admin here at DFB....




No, but out of the 5 Admins, 2 are just there cos they are previous owners, one is there as a support, and one is the owner..AB..I'm the other one who manages the site.

Either way, none of then had commented on your Mod.

I don't believe I abused you above eother..in fact, I was very cool about being bashed by a member..lol..

As I stated above..I will download and test your mod, then I'll have my own opinion...not one of DFB's, but my own..

If you had seen fit to email, or U2U me about the release of your mod, it may have already appeared on our Home Page..

Also, in my above post..I supported your cause...so you don't need to insult us any more..just take any comment, and create a patch if you have to, if the comments are not too bad, then leave it as it is..don't take them to heart, use the info to your advantage..

Just because one member doesn't like your Mod, that's no need to dump DFB as a site you visit..all the comments here are not those of DFB, but members, you need to accept the fact that some people are not going to like it..that's life..

EE

Commando*Bo$* - 2-14-2005 at 02:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Eagle_Eye
Also, in my above post..I supported your cause...so you don't need to insult us any more..just take any comment, and create a patch if you have to, if the comments are not too bad, then leave it as it is..don't take them to heart, use the info to your advantage..

Just because one member doesn't like your Mod, that's no need to dump DFB as a site you visit..all the comments here are not those of DFB, but members, you need to accept the fact that some people are not going to like it..that's life..

EE


i agree with Eagles comments. couldnt have said it better myself.

Þoncho - 2-14-2005 at 12:24 PM

While it is a good mod that will indeed refreshen the game, I dont think there was enough testing on it.

I saw many things (as a player) that had me wondering. I wont go through my whole discrepancy list but here are a few:

1). Glock 18c .... did you not think I would not notice there was no extended mag?

2). SL (sniper weapon) looks like a metal branch

3). G11......looks like a metal blocl with a red dot on it.

4).snow/desert skin with hood......has a huge split down the seams when you left lean

5). Steel railing and ladders...dont even look realistic

6). I shot at the hummer from behind by accident as realised that the bullet riccochets were still hitting the hummer well after i had shot at it.

Like I said, i wont mention all the bugs and such,. Its those little things and in the case of this mod.....there are plenty and I mean plenty....something that alot of testing would have seen.

Still, its the best major mod since the Terranova mod, and like Terranova, the Black Ops mod will too liven the game for us players.



btw, Commando*Bo$*, I think it was you who mentioned the XM8 a while back to be used by the U.S military.....well it just failed a major test while in the Arctic climates......so no more XM8:(

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deathwish99 - 2-14-2005 at 01:14 PM

There should be an update coming with new wepons for the black ops mod and they will be better with new items and such, so just keep that in mind.;)

Þoncho - 2-14-2005 at 01:27 PM

There were a couple of weapons i thought looked sweeettt.

SEC Shootre - 2-14-2005 at 04:31 PM

deathwish when should the update come out?

Brokenmachine - 2-14-2005 at 08:35 PM

What is up with all this bad mouthing?

Terranova had a big influence on this mod, don't believe me..look at the credits.

Cr@ck, the guy with the green thumb and also a Terranova member donated a good hand full of excellent models. Like the trees, and buildings.. temples and stuff.

Vlad, also a good friend of Terranova donated lots of his models from his russian mod to the Black Ops team.

Myself, a new Terranova member helped out teaching some of the Black Ops crew how to use the OED, how to name things in max, and even how to setup alpha channels on foliage textures.

We had a fun time working on this mod and got to know some of the new school modders comming up in the community.

Deathwish did a good job on the weapons also. Before you chime in, I will agree that they were not perfect but good enough. They can only get better from this point.

I talked to Razor and he does plan on making a patch.. its only their first complete mod and they were trying to get some feedback on it so they can improve it.

The mod is worth downloading, I enjoyed it alot. The only thing I did not like was joining a mod server only to find out the map in rotation was "mean streets".. kind of defeats the purpose of a mod.. but the host was to blame for that one lol.

Kill the ego guys, please.

Eagle_Eye - 2-14-2005 at 10:52 PM

Brokenmachine, exactly my point..don't take any comments as "Bad Mouthing"..take them as feedback..

I finally downloaded this Mod, and took a quick look..whilst I like it in general, there is a bit of tidying up to do, which really should have been done after the beta, and before official release..

I know..you guys are excited about the Mod, and you should be..but don't let that get in your way of doing it right the first time..

The DFB mod is still under wraps..it's been months on our part..we'll get there..hopefully without too may mishaps..

No doubt we will have our faults, and someone will can it..but, as said above, thats life..

No one is disputing the reputation of those that gave their all for the Mod..we all appreciate the time and effort..

There are a few nagging things that I found..I may make a short list and U2U m21 with them when I get a chance..

Cr@ck did a top job on those trees..maybe he can do some for our Mod as well..I'll have to ask him..

Great Job guys..

EE

ummm

SonicDeath - 2-15-2005 at 01:31 AM

What I see is a lot of people that don't do crap for the communitty complaining to the ones that do....Poncho...what do you do for the communitty other than complain? My guess is you have made a couple of maps and complain and act self important. Sure everybody has a right to there own opinion but if you think your Opinion is worth something...go UMF's site and post your concerns.

The update will be out when we feel it is the right time to release it if ever....
Speaking for myself and Razor we are pretty sick of people like poncho and Human target complaining in the wrong places and whining about small stuff without even coming to our site . Go to UmF's site make your case...maybe it will get fixed ....if not STHU and go make a map or something! Sorry to be rude, but we are so sick of people being negative and it only happens here. I say ...you want something fixed ....go to the proper site and take the 5 mins it takes to post your negativity and post it their.

About DFB... I'm not down on the site for this...its an on going problem which seems to never be fixed.... How would you like it if I shutdown the dl link for the mod because I didn't like the comments of a few....that would be moronic and bad for the communitty.

Its all about trying to make the game a little different and add cool models so us mappers have some new toys to play with.

EE , I do thank you for posting a story about the EXP and would glad to give you updates a news before it happens ....

my icq # 269647432

Commando*Bo$* - 2-15-2005 at 06:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Þoncho

btw, Commando*Bo$*, I think it was you who mentioned the XM8 a while back to be used by the U.S military.....well it just failed a major test while in the Arctic climates......so no more XM8:(


really? what a disapointment, it looked extremely well designed and almost sounded flawless.

M21 understand what Eagle and so many of us have posted.

Poncho gave you a few areas that needs fixing, he wasnt complaing he was merely pointing out where you could fix something.

nobody is trying to put down this mod, everyone is trying to give you feedback about what to fix and what they would like to see in an update, Like i said thats how:

City Nights for MOHAA (CN)
Point of Existence BFV (POE)
Heat of Battle COD (HOB)
Desert Combat BF1942 (DC)
Eve of Destruction BF1942 and BFV (EOD)

survived and built up a fanbase, they asked, surveyed the public in what areas need improvement and what they would like to see.

All of this is called Constructive Critcism.

Again we have stated that our comments is our own not of DFB, blaming DFB is not going to get you anywhere.

Timber3050 - 2-15-2005 at 08:00 AM

lmfao M21. Poncho merely explained a few errors. He never said the mod sucked. what he gave you was constructive criticism that can help you. what do you do? You make some ignorant comment like "STHU"

By Poncho
Quote:

Still, its the best major mod since the Terranova mod, and like Terranova, the Black Ops mod will too liven the game for us players


Did you even bother reading? he says the mods great al the same, and you immediately bad mouth.

And HT is probably the best skinner around. He's skins were in a sense "stolen" for the terror mod, and know that he's told you errors about present skins your bad mouthing him too.

Þoncho - 2-15-2005 at 08:01 AM

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Poncho...what do you do for the communitty other than complain? My guess is you have made a couple of maps and complain and act self important. Sure everybody has a right to there own opinion but if you think your Opinion is worth something...go UMF's site and post your concerns.


dude....get off your high horse

I am as one would say a "customer", when I receive or in this case download the Black Ops mod, i expect that with the crew that you stated, the mod would be awesome. Has it it?? I think it has done its part, but it has flaws. As far as ive been addressed a following update should correct some of my concerns.

It seems that anyone who critiques the mod, doesnt not agree with you that the Black Ops mod is the best thing since sliced bread or agree with you period is "the enemy who is out to get the Black Ops mod".....

I dont claim to know about modelling, nor do I claim about skinning, but judging by your post to me in rant and rave, I dont deserve that right to voice my concern because i dont model or skin.

I never said i didnt like the mod, in fact i played using the mod lastnight, but for some reason it seems that you get so bent out of shape when ppl critique it.


As far as placing my concerns on umf's website, why should I.......your the one who opened the topic here.

Anyhow, on to something worth mentioning, im eagerly awaiting the update?

(psst......before someone rips into me..keep up the good work)

craigdavies2003 - 2-15-2005 at 07:29 PM

human target does not just make maps and has a right to complain.considering his skins weres stolen in the last mod you guys made. he only pointed that your skins had errors. and i think u guys out of spite detest me. as this all started by razor taking my idea of an update. which he said u didnt need. and whats all this stuff about. nova inside is best. i dont want MY mod posted at nova inside. so u cant use that as a threat to me.

Eagle_Eye - 2-15-2005 at 09:34 PM

OK Craig, we get the picture that you and these guys don't get along...now that's enough comment here mate..take it to email, or U2U..

Leave comments here that are not personal..

Thanks
EE

craigdavies2003 - 2-16-2005 at 01:02 AM

eagle eye u replied to my submit a download post?

look good to me

SonicDeath - 2-16-2005 at 02:10 AM

http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/maps/dfb1.JPG


Great looking skin and nice looking gun...think a few need some glasses or something! Maybe its time to upgrade video cards!

Timber3050 - 2-16-2005 at 06:36 AM

it is a good looking gun, but the contrast on the skin is too low. I would suggest highlighting it in photoshop. Also front site shouldn't be inside the hand guard. other wise a good job was done on it.

yeah

SonicDeath - 2-18-2005 at 04:43 AM

the people who are still interested in it might wanna check UMF's site for update news...I'm not gonna submit myself to this agravation anymore....so thank the jerks for that!

HumanTarget - 2-18-2005 at 09:01 AM

Yeah that skins is pretty good. As timber said maybe a bit more detail, but that doesn't matter much, as it's pretty good.

but some of the others need to be brought to that level.. eg.

The M4SD, the one ur pic is of, is good..

Sopmod M4, needs the alpha layer looked at

Plastic Army Man

Now i'm not trying to be mean. Just providing both sides of the story.

as i said to u sonic on ICQ, if u guys want help with these, just ask. I'm not going to run u guys down to help u, as i don't need the boost for my ego, but am willing to help. Take the offer or not i don't care.

if...

SonicDeath - 2-20-2005 at 04:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HumanTarget
Yeah that skins is pretty good. As timber said maybe a bit more detail, but that doesn't matter much, as it's pretty good.

but some of the others need to be brought to that level.. eg.

The M4SD, the one ur pic is of, is good..

Sopmod M4, needs the alpha layer looked at

Plastic Army Man

Now i'm not trying to be mean. Just providing both sides of the story.

as i said to u sonic on ICQ, if u guys want help with these, just ask. I'm not going to run u guys down to help u, as i don't need the boost for my ego, but am willing to help. Take the offer or not i don't care.



If you want to help go to http://umf.webhop.net and post that you do...I don't have time to track you down.
I have seen your skins...they arn't bad. Oh and your website needs a little help...be glad to help if you need it...just ask!

HumanTarget - 2-20-2005 at 12:19 PM

yeah contacting me on ICQ that u added me to 3 weeks ago is soo hard :P:D:D

SA80 ..going in update

SonicDeath - 2-25-2005 at 02:21 PM

www.dfarena.com/crack/tn_exp/SA80test.jpg
www.dfarena.com/crack/tn_exp/SA80test2.jpg


SEC Shootre - 2-25-2005 at 02:33 PM

sweet gun but u might wanna scale down the sight a little bit ,it's huge.

a few more.....

SonicDeath - 2-27-2005 at 02:23 AM

http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/aug.jpg

http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/g-11.jpg



http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/mm1.jpg



http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/p90.jpg


http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/rpd.jpg



http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/sig-552.jpg


http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/usas.jpg



http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/uzi.jpg


http://unitedmappersfederation.com/v-web/portal/cms/Sigs/ak-47%20reload.jpg

*chrislew200* fixed P90 link it now shows up. the h was missing off http*

Commando*Bo$* - 2-27-2005 at 03:48 AM

very nice weapon models and skins, the P90 link is dead. Wish i still had BHD

p1gs1ck - 2-27-2005 at 08:18 AM

screenshots remind me of a mixture of serious sam and counter strike....good work tho!

xstealthstrikerx - 2-27-2005 at 11:49 AM

when i clicked on the icon, it says " This application has failed to start because binkw32.dll was not found" does anyone know how to fix this?

xstealthstrikerx - 2-27-2005 at 07:02 PM

wow fixed my problem but, is this mod a joke or something? no offense, but...... what happened with the weapon models?

here we go....

SonicDeath - 2-28-2005 at 02:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by xstealthstrikerx
wow fixed my problem but, is this mod a joke or something? no offense, but...... what happened with the weapon models?



If you took the time you took to post this comment ...why don't you take the time to read two posts up ...those are some of the new weapons in the update and honestly you should be a little more respectful of the people that spent alot of time working on this mod....but the good thing is the mods been out for way over a month and the server list keeps growing so many people seem to disagree with you....:D

Mædhros ~V~ - 3-17-2005 at 06:18 AM

I was looking for info on the Black Ops mod and came across this topic, very interesting. I read through all the posts and it's pretty obvious who the mature people are in here. People get offended real easy, even when guys like EE are trying to offer help.

All I really want to say though is how much I respect everyone in the mod community. You put in your time free of charge so we can get something for nothing. There is no bad mod, just good mods and great mods. Thank you to everyone who puts in their time for those of us without the skills to make these mods ourselves.