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when is a 203 not a noob kill?

britishhighcommand - 3-24-2004 at 10:52 PM

people seem to think being killed by a 203 is being noobed, though i disagree, in the right hands this is a very challenging tool, its similar to sniping you have to leave lead time granted they have a larger effect distance but you try hitting someone with a 203 that is on a different island that over 400m away.

it is possible to noob with any weapon, for instance when knifing someone they see you and are at a distance where they could get a knife out safely but arent too far out to waste your time with this could be described as nooby so why do people not moan so much about that?

i suppose 203's are considered noob also as people are thought to cheat when using them. if hit directly close up by a 203 there will be no blast so people are accused of cheating, just something that should be addressed as i dont noob and i use a 203 anyone got a problem let me inadvertantly shove one up your ass and pull the trigger......so to speak lol.

cheers

BHC Gen Ugly

madhatter - 3-24-2004 at 11:08 PM

I don't understand the 'noob' thing. It appears to come from people who are getting attacked and arnt willing to find a effective way to defend themself. The m203 has just as many downs as ups, infact more. Low ammo, high reload time, possibility to kill yourself. If someone is smart enough to take advantage, then they will take away the m203's advantages and render it 'noobles'.

britishhighcommand - 3-24-2004 at 11:22 PM

and useless, the only real advantage is the big killing area. ok what other advantages are there??

killing

WRecKLeSS~MOH~ - 3-24-2004 at 11:38 PM

It is also very effective to hit snipers at long range, if you are good with it. It can also be very effective when clearing rooms, clays satchels...& enemy forces

Jakl 66R - 3-24-2004 at 11:44 PM

i like the 203.

it very effective

i use it sometimes for sniping

and get hi kill ratios with it

A.Bullet - 3-26-2004 at 02:45 AM

people who diss the weapons that came with the game.. are pretty funny..

The only thing n00bish.. is dying..

so its not the nader thats the n00b but his victim in my opinion..

Sharptooth~RGR - 3-26-2004 at 03:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by madhatter
I don't understand the 'noob' thing. It appears to come from people who are getting attacked and arnt willing to find a effective way to defend themself. The m203 has just as many downs as ups, infact more. Low ammo, high reload time, possibility to kill yourself. If someone is smart enough to take advantage, then they will take away the m203's advantages and render it 'noobles'.


Couldn't agree more ;)

yup yup

̃oncho - 3-26-2004 at 01:16 PM

Quote:

so its not the nader thats the n00b but his victim in my opinion..


you often see ppl who are killed with a nade or ten calling the killer a noob/noob nader and so forth, i think you will find AB's quote very fitting.........lol

HumanTarget - 3-26-2004 at 03:49 PM

apparently i'm a nade bunny :).... but recently someone changed that to nade energiser bunny after i naded them over the lip of a hill ith no real sight line :) can't do that with a machine gun or sniper rifle :P 203 can certainly be helpful :)

madhatter - 3-27-2004 at 06:22 AM

Ooh thats cool target, but have you ever crashed a server with satchel charges? That takes precise timing of my 8 member team, laying down 8 of them each infront of the inactive host. LOL

Timber3050 - 3-27-2004 at 06:30 AM

somebody i know was messing with the weapon.def files, and made it so satchel did about 100 times more damage, lol. apparently he crashed his hole comp as the game tried to comprehend the damage

203 not nOObish

Ronin[RK] - 3-27-2004 at 06:42 AM

Have to go with Bullet on this one. It takes skill to weild the 203. Only a true master can lob a nade over a hill and waste somebody.

Timber3050 - 3-27-2004 at 06:46 AM

i remeber a post long ago saying that the update allowing servers to eliminate the auto elevation was a mistake, lol. obviously this guy was no good with the 203 to begin with, lol. I love my 203, if a person runs from me trying to hide behind a corner, then they can just say good bye. i also use it on window snipers that think there safe because of the narrow opening.

brings back memories...

MAXIMUS2111 - 3-30-2004 at 06:24 AM

I remeber getting banned from servers for wielding the mighty mm-1 with such skill i scored 56k-2d.....ah those were the days

i used a grease pencil on my monitor to mark off the distances...it was roughly 1" for every 100m......got called everything forma noob to a cheat

its funny getting called a noob when land a 40mm nade right at there feet from 300m while they are on the move...

every weapon has been called a noob weapon when placed in good hands

203

bs2 - 4-7-2004 at 06:56 AM

most people think 203's are noob guns because all you have to do is shoot at your opponents base and the will be forced back<--at this point its noobish
i don't think this though because they have 203's at there disposal too, so why don't they use them<---at this point theres no problem

MooQie(CA) - 4-7-2004 at 08:35 AM

a kill is a kill is a kill..... the question is did you have fun blowing that bad guy up with a 203...:P

Couldn't agree....

Wo|f - 4-8-2004 at 08:16 AM

I couldn't agree more, your only a noob if u cheat, like a 'flyboy' nading some1 from high up

Dats my opinion anyway

Lugnut~To - 4-9-2004 at 03:47 AM

I use nades/Laws religiously! I use them both when bullets or knife is not feisable..yet people think that it is a noob kill. Like on High Desert..I will jump up the back of walls onto the roof, hop around and nade and Law people..and they die.so i must be the noob :o

̃oncho - 4-9-2004 at 06:50 AM

This is team mate's sig quote...basically he no longer care to be called "noob"..lol
Quote:

YES I'M MR.NADE NOOB SO (expletive) AND TAKE IT LIKE A MAN!

Fuzzy(CA) - 4-9-2004 at 05:39 PM

one thing i think people forget when they scream about a 203 being a noob kill is that you give something to get something, medics give up all explosives and exess firepower in a trade off for speed. I like to have a 203, good against multiple enemies and hardpoints. But you give up speed and manouverabilty. Much the same with a SAW or m-60, you could scream noob for one of those, can't shoot need 4000 bullets. its a balance.


Fuzzy(CA)

britishhighcommand - 4-9-2004 at 11:15 PM

another draw back to the 203 is the glitch when trying to shott walls or indoors, the grenade often doesnt explode. the only other speciality type that has a similar problem is snipers, as they often are glitching not to any fault of their own, as it is hard to tell some times of you are, but the point is 203 is just another weapon there in the game, so why not use?

though saying this my squad was in a match not too long ago when all you can hear and see is nades flying everywhere, you have no chance to get to the armoury, etc.

this in my opinion was unfair and noobish. but more than that the way we were killed then was unskillful waiting for you to respawn and then just shooting nades. BHD is a skilled game and this was a cheap victory for the other team!

BHC Gen Ugly

Lugnut~To - 4-11-2004 at 02:39 PM

Getting hammerd down, and preventing your opponet from getting to the armory isn't noobish at all..its actually quite smart :cool:

203

bs2 - 4-13-2004 at 09:12 PM

i dnt care wat n e of u fink i fink the car15 203 is the noobish gun in the game

MAXIMUS2111 - 4-14-2004 at 12:33 AM

and i think you need to sign up for "hooked on phonics"

Fuzzy(CA) - 4-14-2004 at 05:20 AM

i agree that message was like some kinda wierd gramatical charades... and 'fink' man ny kinds don't say that, if they did id smack em up side the head...


Fuzzy(CA)


PS: thier 9 and 8!

Wo|f - 4-14-2004 at 06:37 AM

Hey, bs2, the nade is there to be used so y not use it, some people like it and some don't, u just gotta live with it!!!

y i dont use it

bs2 - 4-14-2004 at 10:53 PM

i know its there but using it would only make my self look as much as a noob as the over ppl using it using a frag to blow tings up is more my style
o yer and fuzzy im nt 1 of ur kids so shut up

britishhighcommand - 4-14-2004 at 11:41 PM

how friendly anyway, as has been said so many ties in this post it takes skill to kill with a 203.

in my opinion exception is when the opponent has it set to primary, its like running round with an at4 and shooting it 5m in front of you.

though the choice is, use whats at your disposal or get shot.
i mainly use the 203 when under fire and reloading, it scares the enemy back and also kills some. plus other situations blah blah.

and what ever anyone says people are entitled to their opinion and arent to discriminated against because they think differently. (getting into world politcis now lol)

BHC Gen Ugly

Timber3050 - 4-15-2004 at 12:07 AM

ok then, did you know that the 203 actually takes some amount of skill, unlike the M60 and AT4! By calling the 203 a noob weapon, you are therefor calling all weapons easier to use noobish, and to say using a 203 is noobish, is down right stupid. In my experiance, people who accuse 203 users of noobiesm, usually don't know how to aim the weapon heigh enough.

The 203 has down sides too, it has a minimum range, it's reload is long, and you only get 6 rounds, 1 at a time.

It takes just as much skill to master a 203 as it does to master a rifle, call it noobish all you want, but remeber that next time you decide to AT4 an unsuspecting 5 meters off, as highcommand said

r u dum

bs2 - 4-15-2004 at 03:55 AM

omg r u dum the at4 and the m60 take mor skill 2 use dem a bloody 203.....
wiv an at4 u hav u measure your shot b4u because u only get i rocket but wiv a 203 u can fire and fire agen u can even do it with you eyes closed...wiv an m60 you have to draw close to your victim to make the kill even then u probly cant walk fast enough to get to them because half way along the way sum noob wiv his 203 fires blindly over a wall and blow u up!

Timber3050 - 4-15-2004 at 06:12 AM

listen, the AT4 takes little skill, it extreme range and great acuracy. you just aim and shoot, , with M60 you can pop off kills at 200 meters just by praying, i've done it a large number of times, didn't take much to do. 203 you have to lob at just the right hight, if you miss, they can easily know where you are and take you out whuile you reload, unlike M60 where you have 200 rounds, and with AT4 after shooting you quickly get back to the primary

And i don't take kindly to being called stupid by some grunt who i have yet to seen help anyone in the forums or do anything constructive other then accuse people of noobiesm. make sure you have a good argument before you through out insults

HumanTarget - 4-15-2004 at 11:31 AM

as timber said.. with the M60 it's easy to hit someone at 200+ meters... not exactly a great skill required.. i personally have shot many a sniper with the M60. but lets see u shoot someone 200 over the lip of a hill with a 203, or get them on a three story building from the ground.. these things take skill, a well measured shot, and timing so that u don't get wasted by a barage of return fire... when doing things like this. the 203 becomes one of the most skilled weapons... alot of squads will have dedicated ppl to use the 203 for precision explosions..

there maybe some "noobs" as u like to call them using the 203... but u will find at distance they miss more than they hit.

SilentTrigger - 4-15-2004 at 06:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Timber3050
listen, the AT4 takes little skill, it extreme range and great acuracy. you just aim and shoot, , with M60 you can pop off kills at 200 meters just by praying, i've done it a large number of times, didn't take much to do. 203 you have to lob at just the right hight, if you miss, they can easily know where you are and take you out whuile you reload, unlike M60 where you have 200 rounds, and with AT4 after shooting you quickly get back to the primary

And i don't take kindly to being called stupid by some grunt who i have yet to seen help anyone in the forums or do anything constructive other then accuse people of noobiesm. make sure you have a good argument before you through out insults


Not that i could read the other guys post, so i dont know what he actually said, but i agree with you timber!

britishhighcommand - 4-15-2004 at 11:20 PM

lets put it this way, a 203 has 6 shots correct, it will take a person of lower skill all those shots probably to hit someone more than 50 meters. so why worry and if you are more than 50 meters and you get hit, its cause the player is skilled are 203ing, saying this i have faced squads who only 203 the explosions never stop, this is because on certain maps when players are bunched together the 203 will get many kills and keep you safe, where as a frag will give them chance to run etc.

lets put it like its real life, you have the choice shoot the guy with a 203 as its all you have left or you die but as your dieing you say to yourself, "atleast im not a noob." which would you do?

eddsdead - 4-17-2004 at 03:09 AM

NOOB. i get called a noob alot and y,cos i killed them. strange bunch of ppl,cant handle getting killed.lol

Anarchy=S2K= - 4-17-2004 at 04:34 AM

Once again, the ethics of a video game is about to make another pass of the supposed starting point of the circle. It's all so amusing :D

Fuzzy(CA) - 4-17-2004 at 04:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bs2-solo-
i know its there but using it would only make my self look as much as a noob as the over ppl using it using a frag to blow tings up is more my style
o yer and fuzzy im nt 1 of ur kids so shut up


Wow id reply, but i can't seem to find a translator for this language...


Fuzzy(CA)

JOKE*HER - 4-18-2004 at 12:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anarchy=S2K=
Once again, the ethics of a video game is about to make another pass of the supposed starting point of the circle. It's all so amusing :D


CQL........:D.....yeah and it's not like we see it on the news during real wartime......
EXAMPLE:......"We interrupt this rant thread to bring you an update on the war in DF2 Land.... Im the Pied Piper and I'm reporting live from Cold Storage ... ."the WEST side of the RED Team Country was banned from the war early this morning around 3AM, for rapidly and repeatedly using grenade launchers to hold off the enemy and protect their base....." They are charged with sucessfully winning the battle/we didn't like it............now back to you pansie.... LOL!!!

Timber3050 - 4-18-2004 at 12:36 AM

This is a random reporter from a little known station. US soildiers were called noobs in Somailia today for the use of 203. The militia stated that it was unfare beacuase they were so powerful. The US retaliated by pointing out the militia simply didn't know that just because you went around a corner didn't mean you were safe.

JOKE*HER - 4-18-2004 at 12:42 AM

"This is a message from the Emergency Broad Cast System....there seems to be an epidemic!....203's are being use for over 33% of the battles.....They must be noobs!!!...The Noobs are taking over...I repeat....the noobs are taking over!!"

..........seriously, it's a weapon in the game to be used or it wouldn't be a part of it. (logical) I see nothing wrong with it and yes each weapon has it's own specialty which you must be skilled at to use effectively.
......Stupid: (by definition) slow in apprehension or understanding.....
and most of all not nice to say to someone . SilentTrigger, I'd be ****y too if someone called me stupid or dumb. You handled that well....:D

MooQie(CA) - 4-18-2004 at 05:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fuzzy(CA)
Quote:
Originally posted by bs2-solo-
i know its there but using it would only make my self look as much as a noob as the over ppl using it using a frag to blow tings up is more my style
o yer and fuzzy im nt 1 of ur kids so shut up


Wow id reply, but i can't seem to find a translator for this language...


Fuzzy(CA)


i wish i were one of his kids with the new puter he's getting...

britishhighcommand - 4-19-2004 at 09:48 AM

reporter: " hi there this is ...'mr x' with noob central'...now we have a keen noob here, can i ask you just a few questions?"
noob: "*hick up* sure doc.....*hick up*"
reporter: "ok so how does the CAR15/203 work?"
noob: "errrrr.....errrr,"

{at this point the nob pulls a CAR15/203 out of where ever players keep them}

noob: "look here....oops"

[onscreen]
noob sent reporter to the morgue
noob got tired of life

this is pretty much comon place in noobish games.

would you say that situation is noob?

JOKE*HER - 4-22-2004 at 08:31 AM

Yes could be at times however, think about it. If it's the only weapon I have left with ammo and it's close range , the enemy is trying to kill me, then I'm using it . Trying not to die in the process , but it happens.

britishhighcommand - 4-22-2004 at 10:16 AM

you know this posy hashelped me with playing,

today i played in some random server and one guy who came top did it in a 'noobish' way, he had an at4 and used it every single respawn i dont know if he ever shot anyone but he did this and came top. now i would say he didnt deserve that but also. the only way they were going to come back was by using a tactic like this.
i myself had an m21 and was doing reactiopn sniping to be different didnt do too bad.

i just think that i now can fully appreciate the weapon and its uses and not think noob when ever i get shot. i mean i shout at the screen etc i know im wrong and the only reason i got shot was because i was in a bad place or was being silly.

anyone else find this?

Timber3050 - 4-22-2004 at 10:50 AM

sure i get annoyed at how some people use 203 after 203, but then again, you gutta remember how easy it is to knife these guys :D. Most people who use 203 outside of ten feet distance from the target, don't last long when confronted by a CAR15, lol. Personally i still can't aim my 203 to well, taking up to 3 shots sometimes to hit a target, but i tell you, those corners can be both your friends and your enemies

HumanTarget - 4-22-2004 at 11:21 AM

ahhhh the evil corner is out to get me AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :P

britishhighcommand - 4-22-2004 at 11:25 AM

actually there was this guy in game today where the corner really did grab him lol.

he had somehow glitched inside the wall and had no frags or exposives and because our team was doing well and FF was off he was stucjk there lol.

the funny thing was though this was at the beginning of the game, now any normal person would leave and rejoin instead he felt it more appropriate to sit there and moan all the way through the map that no one washelpnig him, you'd think he'd get bored lol or walled

we appolgiese for the great disrespect and missuse of humour in this post....................please dont prosecute

Timber3050 - 4-22-2004 at 11:27 AM

i just want to point 1 thing out, bs2-solo- never apologized! lol

britishhighcommand - 4-22-2004 at 11:31 AM

well why appolgiese for your opinion. madhatter never does lol

though there is expressing your opinion and using a baseball bat to smuther your face in it.

so i guess it would be suitable to appologiese for offensive behaviour but not for having opinion; (just the way you voice it)

sound fair?

perigrine falcon - 4-22-2004 at 02:34 PM

as Al Pacino said as scareface "say hello to my little friend"

all weapons are NOOB weapons you are supposed to whine your opponent to death

all weapons have advantages and disadvantages and for some1 who doesnt use certain weapons(m203 for instance) the advantages would be obvious while most disadavntages can only be found by using the weapon

the biggest advantages to the M203 are indirrect fire(killing people behind or in objects, buildings, terrain), the saying "close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades" rings true u dont have to hit your target just hit close enough so its within the kill radius, it is great for clearing KOTH area even without line of sight, good for taking out clays(now clays take no talent lol)

the disadvantages are far more numerous its slow reload, limited ammo, shorter range than most weapons, it wont work at close ranges due to the grenade not arming itself untill after a certain number of revolutions, it takes alot of skill as mentioned b4 to calculate needed tragetory at ranges especially on a moving target, on servers with FF on if it isnt in skilled hands it will cause alot of murders, slow velosity ive beat guys to the trigger by 1-4 seconds and they still kill me b4 i kill them

P.S. ive never had the opportunity to kill a reporter in the game can some1 tell me how or could DAVE make a map so i can kill a reporter im all gung ho now show me a reporter or the guy with the flute thingy(pied piper)

Timber3050 - 4-22-2004 at 09:13 PM

no, i want bs2 to apologize for calling me stupid. I could care less that he said the 203 is noobish (though his reasons were totally wrong and i had to put them down:P) the fact is he desided he wanted to look big and bad and say "are you dumb"

My Opinion

RedNR - 4-23-2004 at 06:56 AM

Well if you think about about it all weapons have advantages and disadvantages. The 203's have a good advantage of taking out more then one enemy at a time.....

They also have a major disadvantage the grenade fired from a 203 falls after so far making it harder to kill your opponent, so you have to wait a little more time to set up your shot then a normal gun.....

And reload time will get you killed because if you shot and miss now your opponent has the advantage because the time it takes to reload they have enough time to kill you in an instant.... And that you have only 6 shots with a 203 so there isnt that much of an advantage.

Timber3050 - 4-23-2004 at 06:59 AM

lol, bit late with your reply red, that's been said about three times now, lol

britishhighcommand - 4-23-2004 at 08:30 AM

i think we got to the whole summing the post up and seeing what we'd learnt lol, like childrens tv!

Timber3050 - 4-23-2004 at 08:46 AM

like nick Jr where they repeat things so many times that unless you have the brain of a 5 year old your ears will blead

Xx_jet_xX - 4-23-2004 at 09:03 AM

When in doubt frag out!

JOKE*HER - 4-26-2004 at 05:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Timber3050
no, i want bs2 to apologize for calling me stupid. I could care less that he said the 203 is noobish (though his reasons were totally wrong and i had to put them down:P) the fact is he desided he wanted to look big and bad and say "are you dumb"


I'd say an apology is in order here for the name calling and sorry if I was a little too sarcastic (just saw the humor in it all).

And if I ever see you all in a game, I'll be happy to stand in as the 'reporter'.....:P

Timber3050 - 4-26-2004 at 05:45 AM

lol, if you play BHD my squads server is !NAA 24/7 stats

JOKE*HER - 4-26-2004 at 05:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Timber3050
lol, if you play BHD my squads server is !NAA 24/7 stats


LOL.....love to but I don't own BHD. Used to enjoy playing in Blackops (minus cheaters), but that seems to be a thing of the past ..........boo hoo! Host DF2 Search and Destroy now or try to find a friendly game on the public servers.

britishhighcommand - 4-28-2004 at 08:23 AM

ok ok i played a game the other day, well you know through out the post ive been saying theres so much i can tollerate as acceptable use of a 203, well i was in a game and it was just stupid, infact it was a nova server and there was so many nades and lame ass stuff the server crashed and froze everyones game who was in there!!!!

i got noobed like a [Censored]ed also someone was using a trainer i even checked they couldnt see my shadow... so what else could it be my gun was not showing and from that angle they didnt knowi was coming....i think i may start a rant about cheaters.

BHC Gen Ugly

JOKE*HER - 5-1-2004 at 08:24 AM

I know exactly what you mean! I've been
in many, too many games where I was positive that a few were using trainers. Just like you said, how the heck else would they know where you are because of their position. They went right after me as soon as I make a move. They seemed to know precisley where I was at all times. Makes you want to chew them a new one but you can't prove it , so you don't say anything. AARGH!

Timber3050 - 5-1-2004 at 08:34 AM

you know what ticks me off, this guy is sniping getting all these 20 point kills, and i figured out where he was. I shoot him and he starts accusing me of cheating! "I'm sorry you don't know much about BHD, but if you've been sniping for very long you'de know that at long distances you can be seen through the top of terrain." as he says he was behind it, but it looked like he was standing!

JOKE*HER - 5-5-2004 at 11:16 AM

I can understand that and I've seen poeple being punted when I beleive it was unjust for glitches they didn't even know about. At least you can snipe too, I am not so good at it yet. Then I've seen poeple playing dumb until the right moment comes along and they are cheating, killing everyone, murdering and cursing everyone out then leave the game. Kind of funny once in a while because you know they just need to grow-up! I for one, cannot tell if the players are noob nading or not. I thought it was a 'defend the front line' kind of a tactic myself. It sure keeps me on my toes! Or at the respawn.......:D
So what's a girl to do exept give em' a taste of their own medicine! ;)

Xbuster3001 - 5-23-2004 at 06:29 AM

ah the 203 noob thing. i think its noob thing when youre in a small cqb map. i mean if you can see the person ,theres nothing like my good old car15 to do the job, 203 is a desperate noob weapon,some people are to chicken S@$%t to just get in there and shoot, at a close range theres no skill to it,but from far away its cool,especially when you kill 2 or three people,thats great.

the other noob weapon is the m21,geez freekin noobs! like a said before its a desparate nooblet weapon!

Timber3050 - 5-23-2004 at 06:45 AM

dude, your gunna end up starting an argument. sure the M21 has a 20 round mag and is fast firing, but it only has x8. take a look at the 300, it has an x18. I don't know what Nova was doing, but i have never heard of a scope more powerful then x12. As for 203, i'll only use it at close range if i'm low on rounds in my mag and can't get a garanteed kill before reloading, but once again, you can't call the 203 noobish unless you call al The MGs and AT4 noobish, even at close range.

RazorBack-Ao1- - 1-15-2007 at 02:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ronin[RK]
Have to go with Bullet on this one. It takes skill to weild the 203. Only a true master can lob a nade over a hill and waste somebody.
Lol i think the M203 is only Nooby is someone uses it to kill people on the ground, heres what the explosives are and what they are used for. M203's are meant for VEHICLES only, Frag Grenades are meant for people, AT4's are for VEHICLES only too, Mounted Grenade Lauchers are for people and Vehicles, Satchels are for blow open doors, and claymores are for guarding the bases. :)

front-liner - 1-17-2007 at 12:17 PM

Oh no, you woke the dead!

Assassin Xaero - 1-17-2007 at 12:38 PM

I think 203's are noob if thats all you use... one here and there is ok, but if thats all you use, it gets annoying... and AT4s are worse sense gravity doesn't effect them...

Be sure to look both ways before crossing...

Damage4Hire - 1-18-2007 at 09:47 AM

Just a few nights ago, I was being called all sorts of nasty things, to include NOOB as I was merrily running this guy over with a Hummer. Everytime, just before I'd hit him, I'd honk the horn twice... lol... I could tell he was really mad when he started doubling letters in his curses and misspelling everything in his rants... after splashing this guy about 10 times, I started hitting him with the motorcycle... and he was fine with that... ahhhhh, compromise... lol.
Thing is... most of my kills on him were done while he was busy typing up his curses... poor dumb bastard. Yep, went to bed that night with a smile, giggeling in the dark... my wife hates this game... lol

I SAY, GENTLEMEN... IF WE BLEED, ARE WE NOT NOOBS?!

TFDAverageHero - 2-16-2007 at 07:14 AM

i dont mind dieign by a 203 if im in a machine gun nest, a helo, or a hummvee...the weapon isnt a anti-personel weapon...so why not just use the m67?

you still have to lead it and then comensate for the timeing. i think thats more of a harder weapon to "master".

and the AT4...same way, but alot less annoying, since you only get one and you can see it coming at you more than an HE grenade...not sayign i dont use the AT4 on people, but im rarely a gunner anymore since im off dial up.

sharpsniper - 4-8-2007 at 06:59 AM

I don't bother using the m203 because I end up blowing myself up...lol.

Its the same on Counter Strike...kind of. The AWP is a hard weapon to use unless you know how...fortunately i do.

Messenjah - 5-15-2007 at 01:07 PM

The M203 has been one of my favorite weapons from DF2 down to BHD. One squad I helped start up even had an "M203 Sniper" position which I helped encourage. It worked well. I haven't used it in so long, though..

.. Anyway, the M60 became my weapon of choice in BHD, most of the time. But, there were times that I used the CAR15/203, and considering that most of the maps played on have either great distances or a lot of buildings and objects to work around, calculating the range to the target and the speed at which the grenade will hit always gave me more of a thrill than the actual kill.

An AT4 is fast: aim it just slightly in front of your target's path, fire, and he's gone. I used this on groups, on vehicles, or as a quick way of getting rid of a sniper or runner far out.
A 203 requires a bit more skill and timing, depending on your range. You have to see the arc of the projectile in your mind, the distance it needs to travel, the amount you'll raise the barrel to achieve that distance, and the spot in front of, behind, left or right of the target that you want it to hit.
The 203 can also be used as a mortar, as long as you don't aim it too high up. If you can get a good group going with a few skilled 203'ers, it can be a very good tactic. There's nothing noobish about pinning down your enemy with a barage of explosive rain - the team under it just has to find a way to fight out of it, which, in a combat game, is something I welcome. It forces everyone to stop running and gunning, and use each other and each other's skills to get the job done.

It is, also, another weapon in the game that we have been given to use, as has been stated plenty of times before in this thread. To call it a noob gun, or any weapon for that matter, is like calling cheeseburgers noob food just because you eat hotdogs all the time.

Anyway, that's my view of the weapon. I'm glad that some others share a few of the same ideas about it.

God bless.

Damage4Hire - 5-15-2007 at 01:59 PM

Catch a 40mm round on the run in the left butt cheek at 450 meters... and call me a noob? This is the same guy who's lugging around a SAW... "Oooooohhh, check out the mad skills, everyone... I can hold down a mouse button... I rock."

~CHAOS~ - 5-15-2007 at 03:18 PM

Its part of the Game....Enough Said!!!

Xx_jet_xX - 5-16-2007 at 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by ~CHAOS~
Its part of the Game....Enough Said!!!


lol nothing like dragging up the dead for some more fun and games, right Chaos?

as he said its part of the game, if ya dont like it host your own server and make it unavailable. end of story?

~CHAOS~ - 5-17-2007 at 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by Xx_jet_xX
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Originally posted by ~CHAOS~
Its part of the Game....Enough Said!!!


lol nothing like dragging up the dead for some more fun and games, right Chaos?

as he said its part of the game, if ya dont like it host your own server and make it unavailable. end of story?


Thanks m8!!!:cool::cool::cool:

Fireant - 5-17-2007 at 03:32 PM

Only N00bs use the word N00bs....Nuff said. This topic is getting old kiddies.....

STS91 - 5-17-2007 at 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Fireant
Only N00bs use the word N00bs....Nuff said. This topic is getting old kiddies.....


Ya alot of these topics running around on sites..

Next one will be about clays i bet..

Justin-OGS - 6-20-2007 at 03:33 AM

The m203 is part of the game, and people should honestly live with it. "Noob" is only suggested when you are getting a bad K.D.R. It is true that it can be abused, but stop whining about such things.

Assassin Xaero - 6-20-2007 at 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by Assassin Xaero
I think 203's are noob if thats all you use... one here and there is ok, but if thats all you use, it gets annoying... and AT4s are worse sense gravity doesn't effect them...


Well... I'll kind of rephrase that... I think 203's are noob kills if that is all you use in a server that has auto elevation. With that on your don't have to arch it, just point and shoot.

Justin-OGS - 6-22-2007 at 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by Assassin Xaero
Well.,. I'll kind of rephrase that... I think 203's are noob kills if that is all you use in a server that has auto elevation. With that on your don't have to arch it, just point and shoot.


Auto elevation should not even be allowed, it takes the reality out of the game and does give too much of an advantage to anyone. Just one of the many things this Nova game is a disadvantage to the player.

Damage4Hire - 7-6-2007 at 03:09 AM

The 203 is to be used for vehicles only? Hmmmm... that's odd, seeing as how it takes around 10 direct hits from a 203 on a vehicle to even get it burning, in DFX at least... anybody firing their 203 at a moving vehicle is looking to make luv passionatly, however briefly, with that vehicles bummper... please remember to use protection.
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Have to go with Bullet on this one. It takes skill to weild the 203. Only a true master can lob a nade over a hill and waste somebody.
Lol i think the M203 is only Nooby is someone uses it to kill people on the ground, heres what the explosives are and what they are used for. M203's are meant for VEHICLES only, Frag Grenades are meant for people, AT4's are for VEHICLES only too, Mounted Grenade Lauchers are for people and Vehicles, Satchels are for blow open doors, and claymores are for guarding the bases. :)
;)

203

GoldenEagleLST - 7-31-2007 at 08:07 AM

when is the 203 to be used ????????
ANYTIME THE SERVER ALLOWS IT.
crying about the use of the 203 is like someone crying about someone using a sniper rifle in a map that allows the player to go out 500 meters and kill you with one shot, while others are shooting 203 straight up in the air trying to reach you out there.

LMAO if you don't like 203's don't play in severs that allow weapons you don't like to be killed by.

ROFLMAO at you cry babies.

zsw007 - 8-8-2007 at 12:37 AM

On BHD, when a player is on a guard tower(for example) and the ground is flat,and he see another player running and there is no cover, and the player just 203 nade the other player, thats a noob. If the other player hide behid a coner, and the player nade the other player,thats fine. thats what i saw myself on BHD severs

Assassin Xaero - 8-8-2007 at 12:52 AM

I was playing in a server last night and it got really annoying because some guy would only use 203s till he was out of them.

johnson - 8-10-2007 at 07:58 PM

Sorry if I'm late but I can't resist.....I happen to like the 203 but I don't always use it..
What the Noob whiner doen't understand is the term 'Teamwork'
If you have enough guys in a game who are working together, some defend, some distract, (203's, anything for that matter),
and the others move in for the kill in order to advance and then win....
I saw this this past weekend myself..
They were so busy typing, (noob) they weren't shooting enough...
Needless to say they lost both of the games that I was in for at least..
-J

Xx_jet_xX - 9-24-2007 at 04:18 PM

OK nuff said on this subject. if the 203 is used exclusivly by a player regardless of a perfet headshot using 1 bullet or a perfect 203 shot through 2 windows into the hidey hole between 2 buildings it is "noobish" if you can use your primary weapon rate of fire when you can see the enemy, and the 203 when you need to bend the round(s) around corners then it is a skill shot. noobs have no skill thus using what i call "no skill kills" this is using frag weapons only. at4/javelin are the worst for that but thats is more noob than using a 203 exclusivly.

yes the M203 has a use and it is not for vehicle only, nor is it used for killing your opponent in plain sight. hell dont even need to actualy hit them when there jogging sideways to you and scoping the hills on the other side when you use use an M203 on them. this is not what the weapon is used for in real combat situations, it is used to clear enemies from behind cover or lob through a window to clear a room. not shoot someone in plain sight. thats what your BULLETS are for. an AT4 is a newer version of the LAW and that stands for Light Anti-tank Weapon. some ground pounder crawling on a hill 400 meters away is NOT a tank.

Ok now that i have said that It is being a "noob" to use frag weapons only regardless of the ability to put 1 bullet into someones head. yes they have use. rockets against vehicles, nades to clear the enemies cover, bullets for plain sight. I could only wish, because i refuse to play any nova server because of the frag/saw only "noob" crap.

Try killing with an M4 single shot all you pathetic M203/AT4 commandos? oh think not you dont know how to aim. and every AT4/M203 you kiddies kill me with i lose respect for you as a player and feel like banning you.

Now an M203 is noob if used only and so is an AT4(more the at4 because of the lack of elevation.) But if used to clear an enemy out of a building then it is skill and deserves respect. middle of a field is an insult.

Ok so the weapon is not Noob its the noob player who cannot aim. try a sniper rifle and body armor noobs.

Damage4Hire - 9-25-2007 at 05:29 AM

Jesus, bro... how little is it REALY? They have medications for that small, shriveled problem of yours, you know? This is a game... it's NOT real... people paid their 20 bucks and can play the game as they wish... if you don't like the game play in a server, then go somewhere else. Oh, and by the way... nobody needs your respect... get a life, luv. "noob" you later... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!:o

Xx_jet_xX - 9-26-2007 at 07:28 PM

I just love mature responses! You know for your 18th post that was quite mature of you and make's you appear to have been born in the 1990's(no offense to you that were born then.) Did i ever mention penis size or bring anything of that kind of idiotic behavior into my post? Frankly i find your post nothing more than a punk starting a flame war.

I was stating the obvious, its players who don't know how to use Primary weapons that make Nova stat servers useless to everyone who has skill. Why do you think that players who use M203's and AT4's only are not popular in public servers? and do get punted? hmm... because people prefer to play with some resemblance to reality?

As far as where i play? well its not in a Nova stat server but in a public server where players show skill and not frag. My squad has 4 public servers that i play on for the most part. We are affiliated with several other squads, 2 are player vs player and have good standing in that part of the community. I play on their servers as well.

The real question is why do people use frags exclusivly when the vast majority of the community does not like that kind of "cannot shoot" behavior? Hmm seems you are in the minority.

As far as losing my respect goes, well it doesnt matter really but with every other player that tries to play the game the way it was meant to be played loses respect for players like yourself. Noob on in Nova stat servers all you like and get pwned in the public ones.

SuoiveD - 9-26-2007 at 10:18 PM

Just for the record,
I am highly skilled with a .50 in any DF Game & in DFLW I am highly skilled with both a .50 & a MM1.

Damage4Hire - 9-27-2007 at 07:07 AM

Yawn... this thing still going? I just love running into guys that yell NOOB all throughout the game. It makes my dumping a nade at their feet all the more enjoyable. Like I said, people paid their 20 bucks for the game and can play it as they like. I don't give grief to the sniper who hops the wall in a CQB map and runs 3 miles out into the hills to snipe safely out of reach from every other player... I honestly don't understand how they can stand the boredom. If you don't like the game play in a server, then stay in your own and make the 203 unavailable to others... or better yet, come up with your own game and THEN you can make stipulations on what is and what is not "honerable" (what a joke)
Until then, may I suggest a game with a little less stress and offensive game play? Perahpes a game of Shoots 'n Ladders? I hear Candy Land can be quite exciting... just a thought... noob you later.


P.S. I only have 19 posts because I'm to busy practicing my noobish, sniper-crying-inducing nadeing. BUT, all 19 posts have been MAGNIFICIENT!!! Your welcome... I try to keep my fans happy.

Xx_jet_xX - 9-29-2007 at 06:19 PM

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What about the EVGA GeForce 7800 GS CO/258MB GDDR3/ AGP?... think I'd be able to decently play DFX with max detail settings?


Yup Simply "MAGNIFICIENT!!!", asking about a card that was produced well after DFX? yup "MAGNIFICIENT!!!". to answer the question above you can run DFX at max with any 6000 series NviDia card if you have enough ram and processor is fast enough. and i saw other posts similar to this.

It is nothing to do with honor, it has to do with playing skill. skilled players do not like being killed by frags throughout the game. Read this thread, the majority do not like it. Thus comes the "noob" bit when frags are used exclusively. Oh and BTW i have never called someone a noob in a game. if its a fragfest as i call them i simply leave and go to a server where they play more realistically.

If a sniper gets outside the wall in a CQB map then there is a reason to complain and even punt the player. a CQB map is Close Quarter Battle. thus exiting the area designated by walls can be considered cheating. it falls under the same type of cheating as glitching. just because you can glitch by laying in a box does not make it right.

If you join a server and everyone is using Bullets to kill their opposition and you come along and frag only then you are in the wrong. same as if you join a server and its frags and you prefer skill kills and complain then you are in the wrong. if its a mixed server then play like the server is being played unless its your squad server.

Sounds like something ive been trying to say?

*edit
You can stop with the flaming, it does not help your argument. read 2 paragraphs up and quote that if you see a thread like this again.

It's a G-A-M-E. Get over it.

krazeeinjun - 11-11-2007 at 04:14 AM

I host the DFX public server BaGhDaD_CaFe. Have been hosting since DFLW/TFD days under same server name. I started my server for the sole reason that I was sick and tired of being called a cheat and a noob just because I learned how to launch a high-arcing nade 300 meters and land it squarely on some snipe-fooker or saw-fooker's head.

That's not to say that is my only method of combat. I can hold my own with a sniper rifle and a saw if need be or more importantly when I feel like it. As D-4-H stated in a post, I paid my $20 for the dang game, therefore as long as am not using hacks or cheats I'll play it as I dang well please.

The CaFe server has scrolling messages for players which state: DEATHMATCH HELL! ALL WEAPONS UP! NO WHINING PLZ! and 4-FUN GAMEPLAY HERE! U DON'T LIKE - U CAN LEAVE!

And yet they whine. And they accuse of cheating. And they scream "Noob!". Sigh! Doesn't anyone know how to have fun anymore?? You want realistic combat gameplay? Well I can tell you you're not going to find it in DFX. The violence is as cartoonish as it gets. And if you don't get that, then don't expect me to sympathize with your whiny-ass complaints.

----krazeeinjun :P

Xx_jet_xX - 11-16-2007 at 07:10 PM

I was talking about playing like everyone else was when you joined, if its a frag fest then frag away. if its primary weapon use that. if you dont like whats going on in that server piss off to somewhere else that players play the way you like. fragging in a primary weapon server is noobish, joining the gameplay thats being played is not.

I wont play on a fragfest server, but you will not hear me say anything about it if i join and then leave within 5 minutes. not my cup of tea. frag in frag servers, sniper in sniper servers and run and gun in those servers.

basicly it depends on the server you join and what people are using when you join, if you host your own use what you like and punt if you dont like what someone else is doing, or better yet restrict weapons.

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I just repeated myself after reading my last post....sheesh im a goob sometimes.

Jakl 66R - 11-18-2007 at 03:19 PM

your talking about real life play. in th real world in a real fight, you do everything and anything you can to win...period.

yes getting constantly killed by an explosion from an unseen enemy is very frustrating, (theres your realistic, frustration from getting killed lol) but part of the game, that why we are able to respawn.

i only use the 203 when i have group of enemy or i dont want to give away my postition and risk a miss and use half a mag to kill a guy. 203's are effective thats why they are used, i love clearing rooms with em if possible, if not a frag works wonders to.